National Ideagroups - 16th of October - C (Danzig)

[Demonsul]

In my most recent game, Danzig revolted and basically formed pseudoPrussia.

Looking forward to these ideas! Hopefully we'll see more of Danzig!

 

[aqvamare]

Danzig starts with a core on Danzig in 1.8.



We have quite a few more ideas to post before release, so wait and see!

I hope you do not forget Magdeburg, and when you do it, fix this country. The town was never at the eastern side of the elbe river, always at the western side. And the year 1517, Wittenberge, the province is part of Magdeburg. And rename Anhalt to Magdeburg, Anhalt is a totaly different region between Magdeburg and Wittenberg, which produces the netherlands royal family, and katharina the great of russia, but has nothing to do with Magdeburg. It was more a vassal in the sphere of influence of Magdeburg, but never in history in the other direction.

 

[Johan]

WW2 says yes.

So does this mean that Danzig now starts with a core on Danzig?

It's generally very rare for it to spawn, so giving it unique NIs seems a bit odd if it spawns in 1/1000 games.

They start as a core in danzig now

 

[KaiserJohanHome]

Danzig or war - WAR!

 

[McGrey]

AI Danzig approves.

 

[Druplesnubb]

I see they get an idea for being a member of the Hanseatic League. Will they start allied to the Hansa like Riga, Magdeburg and all those other minors?

 

[oblio-]

I see they get an idea for being a member of the Hanseatic League. Will they start allied to the Hansa like Riga, Magdeburg and all those other minors?

They'll have a core but the country itself will not be "alive" in 1444, Danzig will still be owned by the Teutonic Order - if I remember the AoW screenshots they've shown us correctly.

 

[gaius valerius]

[*]Hanseatic League Member: -25% Mercenary Cost

Wouldn't it be interesting to have this as a feature? The Hanseatic League, a sort of mini-league centered around the Hansa, acted like a little faction inside the HRE. It can of course fall apart due to external (Denmark no like Lubeck's powaaah) or internal pressures (Danzig no like Hansa's leadership within the league). It might offer mercantile and defense bonuses to its members (trade income boost and a defensive alliance), event cycles, etc.

 

[Casus_Belli]

Ceylon soon?

Oh, and nice ideas!

 

[Druplesnubb]

Wouldn't it be interesting to have this as a feature? The Hanseatic League, a sort of mini-league centered around the Hansa, acted like a little faction inside the HRE. It can of course fall apart due to external (Denmark no like Lubeck's powaaah) or internal pressures (Danzig no like Hansa's leadership within the league). It might offer mercantile and defense bonuses to its members (trade income boost and a defensive alliance), event cycles, etc.

Agreed. I think you should then turn Lubeck, Hamburg and Bremen into independent OPM's with the Hansa as a formable nation similar to HRE.

 

[BarskiPatzow]

Danzig starts with a core on Danzig in 1.8.



We have quite a few more ideas to post before release, so wait and see!

New ideas for Serbia? at least the cavalry one?

 

[birincikalite]

If Danzig gets ideas, will Finland/Galicia/Catalunya get them too?

I believe Paradox is on the way of making every single nation in game(or culture groups etc.) have unique ideas. I mean, as many as they can if not all.

 

[solidprice]

yay mini hansa!

 

[Closet Skeleton]

Anhalt is a totaly different region between Magdeburg and Wittenberg, which produces the netherlands royal family, and katharina the great of russia, but has nothing to do with Magdeburg.

The Netherland's Royal family are from Nassau in the Rhineland, not Anhalt where Katherine the Great (Sophie of Zerbst) came from. Due to several Queens regnant the Dutch Royal family aren't agnatically Orange-Nassau, but the prince-consorts have all been from Mecklenberg or Lippe.

Agreed. I think you should then turn Lubeck, Hamburg and Bremen into independent OPM's with the Hansa as a formable nation similar to HRE.

I don't know which would be worse, blob Hansa reforming into a kingdom like happens now or separate Lubeck and Hamberg blobs.

 

[Basterbane]

So I take it that with Danzig having core at the start of the game playing as Poland will change a little. First war with Teutons and you take Warmia, Chelmno and free Danzig just to vasalize it (hope for Pomerania to DoW them for some HRE lands / vassal). Later you feed them rest of Teutons or just Warmia and Marienburg.

Would it be possible now to vassalize Brandenburg, turn it into march and feed it lands needed to form Prussia?
In general will marches be allowed to form nations they have decision to do so? I imagine role playing as England and helping someone in HRE form Westphalia?