National Ideagroups - 11th of October

[lucaluca]

these NIs for small countries look kind of overpowered? Especially this set...

 

[Freudia]

these NIs for small countries look kind of overpowered? Especially this set...

It's okay, Trebizond still won't amount to anything in the AI's hands.

 

[Schiltrus]

PLS Navarra next

 

[LACKADAISICAL]

Very cool, would love to reform Byzantium as the Komnenos dynasty rather than the dumb ol' Palaiologos guys

 

[Atilla 'The Hun']

I would like to see NI's for Mong Yang or lets say 'Shan states'

 

[nmcj1996]

Was just thinking about how you could restore the Byzantine empire at TRE and it seems that it is unlikely you can do it without letting TUR conquer Constantinople and so I was wondering if the decision to restore the Theme System or Restore the Byzantine Empire could be changed to convert Constantinople into Greek and Orthodox otherwise it will be literally impossible to convert the province

 

[DC123456789]

these NIs for small countries look kind of overpowered? Especially this set...

That's why they can be overpowered, it doesn't actually matter since they'll never amount to anything anyway (though I do find that Trebizond sometimes has very odd staying power...)

 

[1alexey]

Why do people say this idea set is OP?

It is nice, but it is nowhere near the Tier 1 idea powerhouses.
Half of it, is just meh, and another one is good but not even that powerful.

 

[AndreasPhokas]

Part of me wants to make a trebizondian merchant republic. Of course you have to live long enough first....that and you will lose the kommenoi on the throne and well your traditions become absolutely useless.

 

[usednickname]

Gotland please

 

[nalfz]

Calling georgia next (actually called it 3 months ago along with mogadishu)

If you're still doing idea groups I have a couple of suggestions
Firstly, Georgia.
It starts off in a particularly interesting position surrounded by invading hordes, and can be pretty fun to play as, so it's a bit disappointing that they don't get their own idea groups in vanilla, given how unique the state was throughout history.
The ideas could mostly focus on Georgia's defence against the hordes and give bonuses to things like fort defence, morale and land leader manoeuvre (for strategically manoeuvring around the mountains and stuff I guess, although I'm not sure what this actually does in the game). You can read about Queen Tamar of Georgia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamar_of_Georgia though she is a bit before the time frame of the game, it's still important in georgian history) and the Georgian system of feudalism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgian_feudalism). The feudalism could be sort of represented in-game through a bonus to vassal income. Queen Tamar's golden age could be represented through yearly prestige and legitimacy bonuses (these would probably have to be the traditions / starting ideas because Queen Tamar's reign was 250-ish years before the game's start), and the expansion into the neighbouring muslim states could be represented with some bonuses to holy wars (I think it's possible to give a manpower bonus during holy wars). Also the system of serfdom in Georgia was quite rigid, which could manifest in a bonus to production efficiency

 

[mudcrabmerchant]

Reeeeeaaaaaaaally not looking forward to Trebizond sniping more of my trade from the Persia node.

But aside from that, this is pretty cool, and the fact that lil' old Trebizond gets ideas makes me confident for places like Georgia.

 

[PiriReis]

Part of me wants to make a trebizondian merchant republic. Of course you have to live long enough first....that and you will lose the kommenoi on the throne and well your traditions become absolutely useless.

Why merchant?

 

[happymix91]

I achieved Trebizond -> Byzantium in Ironman, but Komnenos -> Habsburg also.. This new Idea group helps us not to see that situation again.

 

[InFerroVeritas]

I'm a huge fan of +1 legitimacy and that 20% fort defense is going to be really annoying for the Ottomans(which is a good thing)!

Doubtful. The Ottomans will probably eat them before they get their first regular idea, much less their second NI.