National Ideagroups - 10th of October

[Druplesnubb]

I don't see how the joke was racist unless you think he insinuated that the current situation in Somalia has to do with their race. It's not like it's racist to make jokes about Greece's financial problems or Russia's anti-gay laws.

 

[Darsara]

Just let it go, grisamentum's favourite pastime on the forum is accusing people of racism, with varying degrees of validity. He's harmless, so let him be. It's easier that way.

On topic, if even Mogadishu is getting ideas (and decent ones to boot), I really want to see what they are adding to other countries.

 

[panda_Express12]

There is no joke. The assumption that there is a joke (and that it has anything to do with Somali pirates) is a prime example of typical forum racism and ignorance.

The Sultanate of Mogadishu was a significant medieval trading power, although it peaked early in EU4 terms and was gone by the 16th century:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultanate_of_Mogadishu

I find it ironic that you bring up ignorance when you seem to have no idea what racism is.

 

[nalfz]

Mogadishu

Traditions
+1 Navy Tradition
-20% Light Ship Cost

1. Indian Ocean Trade: +1 Merchant & +20% Trade Range
2. Somali Sailors: +1 Naval Manuever
3. East African Gold Trade: +10% Trade power
4. City of Mogadishu: -10% Building Power Cost
5. Mogadishan Currency: +10% Trade Income
6. Horn of Africa: +20% Naval Forcelimit
7. Toob Benadir: +10 Goods Produced

Ambition
+15% Naval Morale

Another suggestion, the somali and swahili states in eastern Africa - maybe you could add an 'east-african' idea group of sorts because the history here is quite similar
They have a long maritime history and some bonuses to trade efficiency, steering and naval forcelimit would be pretty cool. They could also get a bonus to technology cost because, while they are in the subsaharan technology group, which is one of the worst in the game, they did trade very frequently with more advanced nations and brought back technology. Maybe this would be more applicable to the somali states than the swahili ones but there is a long history of conflict between the christian ethiopians and the muslim somalis so you could put in some military related ideas too. You could also mention the Mogadishu Currency (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mogadishu_currency), which was used throughout the somali area to help with trade and taxation. Perhaps this could give trade and tax income bonuses? This is also a pretty good page to look at - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maritime_history_of_Somalia - as early as the middle ages, there were somali merchants trading with the chinese, so maybe a bonus to trade range wouldn't go too far astray. They also have a history of naval combat so a boost to light ship combat ability or naval morale could represent this

(from a suggestion I made in the MPM thread a while back when danubian cossack asked if any nations need new idea groups)

Man, I called this one so hard, I'm practically psychic

 

[ahyangyi]

Please, so more regional/cultural NIs to get rid of the "generic NIs" before adding more fantastic unique NIs. This maximizes the number of playable countries.

 

[Thetitan]

Mogadishu

Traditions
+1 Navy Tradition
-20% Light Ship Cost

1. Indian Ocean Trade: +1 Merchant & +20% Trade Range
2. Somali Sailors: +1 Naval Manuever
3. East African Gold Trade: +10% Trade power
4. City of Mogadishu: -10% Building Power Cost
5. Mogadishan Currency: +10% Trade Income
6. Horn of Africa: +20% Naval Forcelimit
7. Toob Benadir: +10 Goods Produced

Ambition
+15% Naval Morale

Hmmmm. Comparing two similar ideas. Sweden has "Produktplataket" that gives +0.10 goods produced. Toob Benadir is +10 goods produced..... Did someone miss a 0. there, or is that idea 100x better?

 

[Jorlem]

Hmmmm. Comparing two similar ideas. Sweden has "Produktplataket" that gives +0.10 goods produced. Toob Benadir is +10 goods produced..... Did someone miss a 0. there, or is that idea 100x better?

Well, Sweden's idea might be changed too, give the extensive changes to the trade mechanics that are coming with AoW.