National Idea Group Elimination

[Clausewitz_]

By accident, some days you are so bored you just forget that you actually have done something.

No problem, correct tally is:
France:25
Ottomans: 29
Castile: 29
Brandenburg: 32
Austria: 10
Muscovy: 31
Poland: 30
Sweden: 19
Teutonic Order: 20
Japan: 20

11. Netherlands
12. Byzantium
13. Papal States
14. Hungary
15. Ming
16. England
17. Portugal
18. Denmark
19. Burgundy

 

[Phibs]

30 min ago
Today 16:46
Yesterday 00:10
Yesterday 21:56
Yesterday 11:34

Don't mean to pester, but all these less the last one are above board?

Edit: well that's cleared up then. Sigh.

 

[ThePatriotOfDreumel]

By accident, some days you are so bored you just forget that you actually have done something.

Looks like i voted 6 times last 3 days, everyday one very early in the morning and one very late in the evening, to compromise this i will not vote next 3 days.

 

[Zak Preston]

Spoiler

France: 20
Ottomans: 28
Castile: 28
Brandenburg: 30
Austria: 12
Muscovy: 25
Poland: 27
Sweden: 21
Teutonic Order: 22
Papal States: 9
Byzantium: 23
Japan: 25
Hungary: 4
Netherlands: 22

15. Ming
16. England
17 Portugal
18.Denmark
19.Burgundy

Spoiler

France: 22
Ottomans: 26
Castile: 30
Brandenburg: 34
Austria: 9
Muscovy: 30
Poland: 28
Sweden: 21
Teutonic Order: 23
Byzantium: 13
Japan: 23
Netherlands: 13 (ORANJE)

Up Netherlands: well-rounded ideas, with a slight focus on the navy, most of the ideas are great and it's one of the very rare countries with Siege ability.

Down Brandenburg: Way too focused on Military, and how overrated the idea group is what made me downvote it. Seriously, you guys think that the ideas Brandenburg/Prussia gets are what makes it OP, it's the stacking of military bonuses. If you include stacking the bonuses for one nation, do it for all nations.

Spoiler

France: 24
Ottomans: 28
Castile: 31
Brandenburg: 31 (33-2) Overrated as shit
Austria: 13
Muscovy: 31 (30+1) just throw 80 trillion peasant conscripts at them
Poland: 30
Sweden: 21
Teutonic Order: 22
Japan: 19

11. Netherlands
12. Byzantium
13. Papal States
14. Hungary
15. Ming
16. England
17. Portugal
18. Denmark
19. Burgundy

Spoiler

France: 24
Ottomans: 29
Castile: 29
Brandenburg: 32
Austria: 8
Muscovy: 31
Poland: 31
Sweden: 19
Teutonic Order: 20
Japan: 20

Austria: Their ideas are really good and great for diplomacy, but they are pretty weak economically and military.
Poland: POLAND STRONK, POLAND HUSSAR BEAT EVERYTHING.

Something's fishy here

 

[ThePatriotOfDreumel]

Well, I have been very busy last days doing nothing, and i had a lack of sleep the last weeks because of school, so i probably was just stupid and forgot that i had already voted that day.

 

[Zak Preston]

Well, I have been very busy last days doing nothing, and i had a lack of sleep the last weeks because of school, so i probably was just stupid and forgot that i had already voted that day.

Just be more careful next time =)

 

[FieldMedic]

This whole process is a moot point anyway because as everyone knows, Canada has the best national ideas

 

[yerm]

Well, I have been very busy last days doing nothing, and i had a lack of sleep the last weeks because of school, so i probably was just stupid and forgot that i had already voted that day.

You threw a big temper tantrum about how downvoting dutch ideas = racism against your country, and then proceeded to vote multiple times a day as soon as they were eliminated?

Fine, I'll believe and forgive you, but all repeat votes DO need to be re-tallied, and I think the onus would be on you to be the one to go find where you repeat voted and correct it!

 

[ThePatriotOfDreumel]

You threw a big temper tantrum about how downvoting dutch ideas = racism against your country, and then proceeded to vote multiple times a day as soon as they were eliminated?

Fine, I'll believe and forgive you, but all repeat votes DO need to be re-tallied, and I think the onus would be on you to be the one to go find where you repeat voted and correct it!

That downvoting Dutch ideas was because i was terribly bored and wanted to troll a bit.

 

[Phibs]

That downvoting Dutch ideas was because i was terribly bored and wanted to troll a bit.

Fair enough. That's what god made the internet for.
But since you made a mess of things, it'd be decent of you if you did the cleanup and supplied the correct tally counting only your first daily vote for each day.

 

[Stolen Rutters]

Assuming Clausewitz_'s count is correct:

So many good choices, but the weakest that remain are Poland and TO in my opinion (both lack as much synergy as other choices). The up-vote is even more difficult.

Since I have to pick an up-vote, I'll throw one to Ottomans. TO ideas don't have as much synergy as Poland's so.
+1 Ottomans, -2 Teutons.

France:25
Ottomans: 30
Castile: 29
Brandenburg: 32
Austria: 10
Muscovy: 31
Poland: 30
Sweden: 19
Teutonic Order: 18
Japan: 20

11. Netherlands
12. Byzantium
13. Papal States
14. Hungary
15. Ming
16. England
17. Portugal
18. Denmark
19. Burgundy

 

[ThePatriotOfDreumel]

Correct numbers:
France:25
Ottomans: 29
Castile: 29
Brandenburg: 34
Austria: 10
Muscovy: 31
Poland: 30
Sweden: 19
Teutonic Order: 20
Japan: 20

 

[Clausewitz_]

updated:
France:25
Ottomans: 30
Castile: 29
Brandenburg: 34
Austria: 10
Muscovy: 31
Poland: 30
Sweden: 19
Teutonic Order: 18
Japan: 20
11. Netherlands
12. Byzantium
13. Papal States
14. Hungary
15. Ming
16. England
17. Portugal
18. Denmark
19. Burgundy

 

[Phibs]

Thanks guys/gals!

 

[ludoalta]

France:25
Ottomans: 30
Castile: 29
Brandenburg: 34
Austria: 10
Muscovy: 31
Poland: 31
Sweden: 19
Teutonic Order: 18
Japan: 18

 

[Oyubi]

France:26
Ottomans: 30
Castile: 29
Brandenburg: 34
Austria: 10
Muscovy: 31
Poland: 29
Sweden: 19
Teutonic Order: 18
Japan: 18


11. Netherlands
12. Byzantium
13. Papal States
14. Hungary
15. Ming
16. England
17. Portugal
18. Denmark
19. Burgundy

France - Strong ideas that let it do everything quite well. Jack of all trades although native trading principles is massively nerfed by the change in native bonus.
Poland - Strong military stuff but not the best and its other bonuses are actually a bit pointless or weak e.g they tolerate heretics whereas a lot of countries get either tolerance of heretic and heathen or get no penalties for wrong religion.

 

[Fluffy_Fishy]

I'm sure deep down Isabella would have loved to have a hot pink Castile

Whats not to love

 

[Oskar Von Reuental]

France:26
Ottomans: 30
Castile: 29
Brandenburg: 32 (-2)
Austria: 11 (+1)
Muscovy: 31
Poland: 29
Sweden: 19
Teutonic Order: 18
Japan: 18


11. Netherlands
12. Byzantium
13. Papal States
14. Hungary
15. Ming
16. England
17. Portugal
18. Denmark
19. Burgundy

-2 for Brandebourg (Got too much <s>AE</s> vote, i declare an anti prussien coalition, won ´t be fun if the winner is obvious.

+1 for diploidea master race.

 

[ThePatriotOfDreumel]

-2 for Brandebourg (Got too much <s>AE</s> vote, i declare an anti prussien coalition, won ´t be fun if the winner is obvious.

And they are overrated, they think that Prussia is OP while they think of 130% Discipline, 150% Morale, +50% Infantry combat ability prussia, not of the Prussia it really is.

 

[Zak Preston]

France:24 (26-2)
Ottomans: 30
Castile: 29
Brandenburg: 32
Austria: 11
Muscovy: 31
Poland: 30 (29+1)
Sweden: 19
Teutonic Order: 18
Japan: 18


11. Netherlands
12. Byzantium
13. Papal States
14. Hungary
15. Ming
16. England
17. Portugal
18. Denmark
19. Burgundy

-2 for Brandebourg (Got too much <s>AE</s> vote, i declare an anti prussien coalition, won ´t be fun if the winner is obvious.

+1 for diploidea master race.

Poland: +1 Their ideas with proper implementation are on par with Prussian, but also have admin bonuses.
France -2 Nice overall idea set, but worse then Castile's, Muscovite, Prussian or even Austrian. Won't downvote obvious losers from now on.