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Be that as it may, is it any surprise that he's pissed and is venting his frustration? What his issue is should be obvious enough to you, and the onus really is on you to solve this.

Rather then by making threats in a public place he can come to me and express his concerns privately and from there resolve the issue, the onus is not on me, diplomacy is a bilateral process where both of us need to put in work and efforts to get it to work.
 

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If he's already paid the land, im not sure any 'diplomacy' should be required to get you to pay your end of the bargain.

Unless, of course, you never had any intention of paying, in which case the 'diplomacy' should consist of forming an anti-chinese coalition, which never goes out of fashion.
 

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Indeed. China's had these issues with X-for-land deals before, where the land is transferred but somehow the X never materialises - always for good and sufficient reasons, of course.
 

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Indeed. China's had these issues with X-for-land deals before, where the land is transferred but somehow the X never materialises - always for good and sufficient reasons, of course.

Actually I paid part of the amount so far and only needed a break from paying additional supplies because of the war. I havent "not paid" or "refused to pay".
 

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So your claim is that the supplies you had agreed to deliver were not delivered, and also that you have paid in full?
 

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Oh what do you know those carriers that were supposed to be delivered to China got lost in the mail, sorry can't help you until Japan feels he has been paid in full.

China a warning, you screw us over, we screw you over. (Malaysia/Japan Alliance ftw!)
 

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Hmmf. Only an Oriental civil service could manage to lose a mail package the size of an aircraft carrier.

:D
 

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Oh what do you know those carriers that were supposed to be delivered to China got lost in the mail, sorry can't help you until Japan feels he has been paid in full.

China a warning, you screw us over, we screw you over. (Malaysia/Japan Alliance ftw!)

You lost in the mail the mail that you were going to lose in the mail? As in instead of losing it in the mail you actually sent them to me rather then lose them?
 

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Extra Extra read all about it!!!France offered White peace to Germany!!! Extra Extra!!!

The Axis stand is that as Germany is willing to agree to this, we will also IF it doesen't include any secret pacts or deals which compromises the sovreignity and peacfull co-existense of central european nations.
 

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That's surreal. I am both suprised France offered it, and suprised that the likes of China would accept it.

France is far too light here, I think. At the very least gaining the alpine provinces would seem to be in order.

Of course, I am also suprised Sid would accept even a white peace, unless all his allies strong-armed him into it or unless the situation was really dire, so if France really wants peace this might be the only way to buy it at all.

However, if both sides are eager to accept a white peace, one side is wrong to do so. I hope its not France, for their sake.
 

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well actually, Germanys war against France and Quepec aren't technically tied to either Comiterns war against France nor Axis war against Quepec;)

So everyone will make their own calls naturally. But Axis will held summit to discuss this situation and invates other nations that are figthing for Germany's name there as well...
 

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Actually I paid part of the amount so far and only needed a break from paying additional supplies because of the war. I havent "not paid" or "refused to pay".

But in our deal I specially pointed out that I will need those supplies to be paid in 1 year, 1 1/2 max, because of I wanted to spend my industrial capacity in 1936 to build IC, not producing supplies. Wasn't I clear enough ? Besides those weren't threats, I just asked a question.



well actually, Germanys war against France and Quepec aren't technically tied to either Comiterns war against France nor Axis war against Quepec

So everyone will make their own calls naturally. But Axis will held summit to discuss this situation and invates other nations that are figthing for Germany's name there as well...

It isn't quite so, since France is alliance leader accepting their peace deal will end all current wars.


In the interest of Peace In Our Time(tm), the Republic of France would like to offer a White Peace to the nations of China, Georgia, Finland and Germany.
 

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Well like said, the Axis have several conserns over this proposal. One of them being that there might be some secret NAP attached to it which prevents Germany to fight againt France when it decided to either:

a) start a retaliation war against those who helped Germany and/or

b) France attacks some other poor european country such as Prussia

Thus we need some clearence of matters before we can accept. But regardless of that, a WP is a victory for us and for the free Europe!;)

EDIT: And yet France is in war together with Quepec against Germany and China, And in war with Quepec against Geo/Fin/Pak....It should be two seperate wars atleast, thougth why china is in the same war as Germany I don't know as I recall no one guranteeing Germany back then...we all DoWed (well Georgia and China did) after the French DoW.
 
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Hmmf. Only an Oriental civil service could manage to lose a mail package the size of an aircraft carrier.:D
:rofl:

POTM material right there :D
 

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What does France get out of this??? Is there a secret protocol to the peace treaty, where Germany agrees to supply France with its energy needs?

This is merely a prelude to something bigger...

KoM will stab you all in the back and eat your babies!!!

Unless Sid tramples your countries into the dust before that :D