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Briefly:

  • Malaysia, Germany, and France were at war with Japan, Quebec, Shanxi, and Russia.
  • Japan negotiated a peace with Malaysia, whereby Germany and France were to bite off some reasonable chunk of Russia, but otherwise WP. You may refer to this as "flexible diplomacy" or "selling out allies", according to taste.
  • Since pieces of Russia were being offered, I naturally expressed an interest in Finland.
  • At this point confusion arose:
    • Dano says he told me that my entry would void the peace treaty, and that Japan was willing to go to the nuclear wall if he had to fight both Norway and Malaysia.
    • I was unaware of this.
    • The complete annexation of Russia was contemplated.
    • Jakalo stated that this would not be acceptable.
    • Blayne said that there would be no Finland without blood.
    • I accordingly supplied some blood by invading Finland, unaware that this would void Dano's negotiations with Jakalo. I thought I was doing some pro-forma fighting (15 Russian infantry divisions, 60 Norwegian ones of which ~20 armoured) for the honour of the Russian flag, just so Finland wouldn't have been surrendered without a fight.
  • Dano WP'ed, and we were left in almost the diplomatic situation of last week: Norway, France, and Germany at war with Quebec, Japan, Shanxi, and Russia. Note that Italy was neutral this time.
  • The situation in the field, however, was rather improved. Because the Japanese army had been defending China, France and Germany had been able to push deep into Russia and Spain - Moscow and Gibraltar, respectively, had fallen. Against this, since war with Japan had been rather unexpected for me, I had not placed a strong garrison in Scotland, and Shanxian troops had occupied it, although I was able to evacuate and to hang onto Ireland. But Scotland against most of the industry of Russia is obviously quite a nice trade, plus I held Finland.
  • We therefore negotiated a peace which essentially restored the prewar (that is, pre- the previous war) borders in Russia and in Spain; kept Japan in the Norse Law; and gave Norway Finland.

As for the banning, I repeat the request I made in the Ederon and CK threads: No celebrations, please. I consider Blayne a friend, and banning him is frankly rather painful.
 

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Long Time Lurker here who thought he would throw in his 2 cents

I'd just like to say that I'd like as much as everyone in this thread to see someone cross the nuclear rubicon

Your world looks great

BUT, seems to me like it lacks a bit of fanatism

You guys got the sociopaths and all, but no fanatism, which makes Shamu the killer whale cry

Throw in some religion, with high priests, maybe some Aztec-thing like blood and gore asking for the sacrifice of the whole of russia

Only a few years to go now... It is the time for reconing I say! Doom!
 

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Ah the lurker days... I remember when I was just a lurker. ;)

I'd just like to say that I'd like as much as everyone in this thread to see someone cross the nuclear rubicon

That particular Rubicon has already been crossed. First by Georgia against Quebec and Germany, then (rather more seriously) by Norway against Japan.
 

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hmm. I don't quite understand the reason why allies agreed to the peace. Seems you gave up significant tracts of land -especially Russia and Gibraltar, fo next to nothing? And Sid/blaynes ..exit..will leave russia open? -You are NOT going to let Golle play again, are you? -although that MIGHT just start the War To End All Wars :D
 

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hmm. I don't quite understand the reason why allies agreed to the peace. Seems you gave up significant tracts of land -especially Russia and Gibraltar, fo next to nothing? And Sid/blaynes ..exit..will leave russia open? -You are NOT going to let Golle play again, are you? -although that MIGHT just start the War To End All Wars :D

I wouldn't say next to nothing. We basically got the treaty from last war reversed. There's 28 Core IC in the Iberian gains and a lot of resources in the Russian gains.

We initially insisted on more, but the arrival of significant amounts of Japanese and Shanxi troops persuaded us to scale down our demands.

Also, Ulmont has been given the choice of playing Russia. I don't know whether or not he will take it.
 

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I'll take it. That does mean we need a sub for Norway for March 13, though.

Nah, when has the AI ever done anything wrong?
 

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I'm currently conducting a constructive dialogue via pm to get this or at the very least my perplexing simultaneous banning from the CK game overturned.
 

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hmm. I don't quite understand the reason why allies agreed to the peace. Seems you gave up significant tracts of land -especially Russia and Gibraltar, fo next to nothing? And Sid/blaynes ..exit..will leave russia open? -You are NOT going to let Golle play again, are you? -although that MIGHT just start the War To End All Wars :D

When I orginally signed out, before that I asked Ulmot to replace me so in all fairness sake Blayne's position should pass to Ulmont. Hope he fairs better...
(and demands atleast a color change from that awfull pink...):rolleyes:

I volunteer to lead the world to nuclear armageddon...

...sub Norway

Yeah sub Norway, that´s what I wanted to say.

That is, of course, if no one who already played in this campaign comes along.

Well sorry lad, But I kinda was allready recruited for holding those nukes;)

Wich means, next session will Include Gollevainen (as his first time entry as an Yngling) once again
....statisfaction guranteed;)
 
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hmm. I don't quite understand the reason why allies agreed to the peace. Seems you gave up significant tracts of land -especially Russia and Gibraltar, fo next to nothing? And Sid/blaynes ..exit..will leave russia open? -You are NOT going to let Golle play again, are you? -although that MIGHT just start the War To End All Wars :D

I am a little confused to what alliance you are reffering to as "the allies". If you are refering to KoM, Germany and France, they signed the peace because reinforcements were coming in from the east and Italy had decided to play Switzerland.
 

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well if Dano keeps sending spys to Norway and keeps boasting that he has some rigth to do so without retaliation...and if my knives are as sharp as my Katana was....to the peanuts who constantly cry for Nuclear mayhem:D:D:D

But on serious note, you never know what happens when Im involved. Am I not still the biggest ego among the game, despite I haven't been perm since early january:p
 

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But on serious note, you never know what happens when Im involved. Am I not still the biggest ego among the game, despite I haven't been perm since early january:p

Thy ego is truly the largest Golle. :D
 

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italy, GET A MOVE ON!

MP of Varyar must be deducted for being too isolationist. those soldiers are having too much time sitting behind the TV screen, they need to go to war in order to produce a decent baby boom afterwards! DEDUCTION FOR FOUL PLAY! now go!
 

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Thy ego is truly the largest Golle.
Amen!
(and for donations to save your soul, I can PM my PayPall account number to those sinners seeking redmeption:D)

MP of Varyar must be deducted for being too isolationist. those soldiers are having too much time sitting behind the TV screen, they need to go to war in order to produce a decent baby boom afterwards! DEDUCTION FOR FOUL PLAY! now go!

Yeah, the game never saw Novgorod-georgia confontration in full migth, so would it see an american based Italy-norway match?;)
Who knows, Ive yet not recieved my full instructions:D