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dstarsboy

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naples stinks, because once you are free (aragon/castille/portugal permalliance will hate you), you have to blast your way into the HRE to really do anything in Italy. or fight the ottomans (and lose). or kill the pope, aka no one will like you.

Yeah, my main objective is forming Italy and Naples seemed to be the go-to country to pull it off but now I'm skeptical. I'll burn through a few restarts and see if get lucky at all.
 

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Yeah, my main objective is forming Italy and Naples seemed to be the go-to country to pull it off but now I'm skeptical. I'll burn through a few restarts and see if get lucky at all.

it may have more provinces, but instead of having the support of austria you will be constantly fighting them. you are invading the HRE instead of expanding it
 

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Milan, Savoy and Tuscany are way better if you want to expand into Italy the easy way. Hell, they even have better National Ideas.

Pick Naples for the challenge of achieving your own independence or any other personal reason.
 

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Have you tried declaring war on the first day? Just fight the battle and see what you can do, Aragon needs to get over to fight you and hopefully won't get in an alliance with Castille. If they arrive peacemeal you should be able to defeat their forces.