If they do that, they may as well make the Liancourt Rocks {aka Dokdo/Takeshima} a province. They can be coupled with Ulleung island and the Oki islands {Korean and Japanese clay respectively}.
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If they do that, they may as well make the Liancourt Rocks {aka Dokdo/Takeshima} a province. They can be coupled with Ulleung island and the Oki islands {Korean and Japanese clay respectively}.
Thule. It would always be on the edges of TI and if you explore enough of the map it will disappear.
Öland is not in yet at least. It has little historic importance although Åland Island is in! It’s why I first though that meant Bornholm Island was in too. Reason is Åland had fare less importance on the regional scene than Bornholm in EU4’s timeframe. And even through Åland it bigger, it’s actually a spread out archipelago with several regions of inhabitable lands, making Bornholm much bigger with inhabitants and towns even today. So it must be in mostly because of its strategic location being the strait between Sweden and Finland. However Bornholm is not without strategic value either, like historically securing a foothold (that was fought over for centuries) and important naval base in the Baltic Sea for Denmark.
We don’t know all the new provinces added in EU4 yet, but what we see from Scandinavia is that Sweden has at least 1 new province, Åland Island and Norway 2, The Faroe & Shetland Islands (the Shetlands until the 15th century when it goes to UK).
Denmark so far has no new provinces. The game is still months away so let’s hope the developers look at our suggestions here and sneak in a few new provinces for some nations, like Bornholm Island for Denmark before EU4 gets released.
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Hm, Bornholm does seem like a meaningful addition, at least for strategic value (though it's pretty much another Gotland).
Blekinge on the other hand doesn't, no great strategic importance and neither economical.
Carving Rügen from Vorpommern doesn't seem too meaningful on the grand scale either (one more straight to block, more self importance for Pomerania - and that can be achieved easier by separating Pomerelia and Hinterpommern ) You wouldn't add Elba, either.
Making Zeeland a straight-connected island doesn't sound too helpful either.
The Isle of Man or the Channel Islands could both be good for strategy purposes, though nothing much happened there during the period, and they are poor economy-wise.
Blekinge on the other hand doesn't, no great strategic importance and neither economical.
Carving Rügen from Vorpommern doesn't seem too meaningful on the grand scale either (one more straight to block, more self importance for Pomerania - and that can be achieved easier by separating Pomerelia and Hinterpommern ) You wouldn't add Elba, either.
Making Zeeland a straight-connected island doesn't sound too helpful either.
The Isle of Man or the Channel Islands could both be good for strategy purposes, though nothing much happened there during the period, and they are poor economy-wise.
This shouldn't really be modeled with actual land ingame, but an event chain for Ferdinandea would be cool. It is a submerged volcanic island which rose multiple times in history. The more famous incident in 1831 almost caused a conflict between the various nations who claimed it. That is out of the scope of the game, but a similar event could happen if it rose during the timeframe. The event would trigger if there are powerful kingdoms who claim land around it, and add some disputes between the nations in the area.
The Channel Islands shouldn't be added unless something has been done about the supply system. Having a field army numbering in the multi tens of thousands based there would be nonsense.
Darwin in Northern Australia, becuase I was born there and Perth is a colonisable province.
Native salties + 1000000 aggresion
I'd like to see a view of Eastern Canada - the Acadia, MicMac, Abenaki, etc... provinces.
That’s some interesting info Sazae, especially the local Øland/Gotland issue, which reminds me of the Baltic Sea, especially at Bornholm there was usually for several months in the 14th and 15 century an overwhelmingly fish (herring) abundance. So much that fishermen from Øland around 150km away came to Bornholm to catch fish! One of the big times was in 1346, when many came to fish together with the local Danes. Makes you wonder if their richer neighbors in Gotland didn’t like the local Ølander’s, 65km away fishing near them, seeing they sometimes took the long trip to Bornholm.As much as I would love that (being a native islander and all) Öland hasn't played any important part during the time period (you could also argue that it has never been historically important at all). It was invaded by the danes once (or maybe twice) and two sea battles have been fought off the eastern coast. It was also visited once by Carolus Linnaeus (who absolutely hated us Ölanders because of or utter lack of respect for our 'betters'). Charles X found it hilarious to claim all our land as his own personal property and turned the island into a royal game park, that left us unable to use our own land so we had to bribe officials and sheriffs to look the other way when poaching and cutting firewood, corruption was widespread. It didn't make things easier that products from Öland were scorned in favour of products from damned Gotland. Otherwise Öland was a poor backwater province that was often neglected in favour of twice-be-damned Gotland.
Though it might have been different had Öland been occupied or conquered by another country.
P.S. I was actually surprised that Öland was it's own province in CKII. When the Old Gods DLC is released I shall conquer the Baltic from Borgholm!
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Hehe I thought of that one too. It already has a province named after it!
I like to see Temesak (later known as Singapore).
Its a small island located in southeast asia. Apparently it was a regional trade post during the 14th century.
The wiki link will show more infomation about the island
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temasek
With my home country in, it will probably motivate me to play southeast asia minors
Its a small island located in southeast asia. Apparently it was a regional trade post during the 14th century.
The wiki link will show more infomation about the island
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temasek
With my home country in, it will probably motivate me to play southeast asia minors
It will lead to an unreasonable number wars for control of a province of too small importance. Besides, as I said, the AI is terrible at defending islands. And even more terrible when warring for one. I've seen way too many instances of enormous armies being landed on an island just to see them cut off by a superior navy and lose their continental possessions.
If Bornholm is not important, then I can find atleast 12 other provinces in Scandinavia alone that should be merged or removed and atleast 150 on the global map! do you care to tell me why Bornholm is not important and what a province have to look like to be important ?
As for your "AI is terrible at defending the islands" should we then remove all island ? lets remove Malta and Gotland right ? its the best thing to do ? (see my point?)
I guess many leaders throughout history are retards in your eyes, going for Bornholm.. how silly of them, while we are at it, surely the leaders of Germany and Russia that suggested Bornholm as a key province to capture in ww2 had no military or strategically knowledge..
If you ask me! I would love more of the islands that have been suggested in this thread! sure it would be great if the AI system is better this time around (it will be) I mainly play MP, so for me it would add alot more dept and strategically value to the game!
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Powys, mainly because Wales just feels a bit under powered with just Glamorgan and Gwynedd. I have to rush over to Ireland and start kicking them out for just an extra province.
I'd like to see Menorca and Majorca in the game. Mainly because the British owned Menorca, Gibraltar, and Malta so that they had a foothold in the Mediterranean.
Menorca is part of the Balearic Isles : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Baleares-rotulado.png
Menorca is part of the Balearic Isles : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Baleares-rotulado.png
EU3 is a step up in this regard, IIRC Wales had a single solitary province before that.
If a third province was to be added, it would be better in the southwest as more lived there. Problem is I don't think 'Deheubarth' works at all in this time frame - but then again nor does Gwynedd. Pembroke?
Lippe-Detmold, hopefully held by the correct nation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principality_of_Lippe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principality_of_Lippe