Myths about the Aztecs

[Arcvalons]

Found this the other day, and figured it might be useful if the developers wanted a more accurate representation of the 'Aztecs' in this game.
http://www.reddit.com/r/HistoricalW...us_hadnt_discovered_the_new_world_and/c4y57ea

 

[Valiant_Hogers]

Sooo....The source is Reddit?


Not a good source, no matter how good it looks...

 

[Arcvalons]

But Reddit is awesome. And it is sourced.

 

[murlocmancer]

Ok well it is a triple alliance but it is in the same extent of the Delian League, which cna easily be called the AThenian Empire. So what started as a alliance changed into tenochitlan dominating the other two city states and controlling them. They did the same tactic that the Atenians did with the Delian League.
And I hope they give the Aztecs Soconusco as they did conquer that in the late 1400-early 1500's.

 

[Aetius]

What is the proposal about the Aztecs? Linking to an article doesn't really help improving the model...

 

[Derp]

I think the proposal is to simply give the area more (and more realistic) detail.

 

[Eh up me duck]

Let's put it to a vote. Who wants a more detailed HRE, vs who wants a more detailed Aztec Empire - a nation that only exists to be conquered by Europeans in the first place.

 

[Haresus]

Let's put it to a vote. Who wants a more detailed HRE, vs who wants a more detailed Aztec Empire - a nation that only exists to be conquered by Europeans in the first place.

And who wants both?

 

[Derp]

If I had to choose I'd go with Aztecs

 

[xcrissxcrossx]

The Aztecs were a rather interesting civilization, and why couldn't EUIV feature alternate histories where the colonizers simply vassalize the Aztecs instead of conquering them. Or even colonizing around them.

 

[masteriw]

Let's put it to a vote. Who wants a more detailed HRE, vs who wants a more detailed Aztec Empire - a nation that only exists to be conquered by Europeans in the first place.

They'll never release a Native American stand-alone game so I'll obviously vote Aztecs.

 

[unmerged(271387)]

I vote for a more detailed HRE.After all colonial countries are annoying/boring/extremly hard to play

 

[Comrade Chaos]

I vote for a more detailed HRE.After all colonial countries are annoying/boring/extremly hard to play

A strange vote. The reasoning for voting the way he did contradicts his vote.

Greeks are weird.

 

[Evie HJ]

Let's put it to a vote. Who wants a more detailed HRE, vs who wants a more detailed Aztec Empire - a nation that only exists to be conquered by Europeans in the first place.

Natives all the way. The conquest of America was far, far, far more important to the era than the petty squabbles of trivial lords.

 

[flame7926]

Natives all the way. The conquest of America was far, far, far more important to the era than the petty squabbles of trivial lords.

But expanded Aztec content would pretty much only be impactful if you were playing them. Many more people play in the HRE than the Aztecs.

 

[Nunn45]

Why cant we do both?

 

[Evie HJ]

But expanded Aztec content would pretty much only be impactful if you were playing them. Many more people play in the HRE than the Aztecs.

Better simulated Aztecs (and all natives) = (much) better game for all colonial powers, because they have more meaningful interactions with the natives, instead of natives existing only to be pushed down and walked over.

Colonial powers = more important then petty Imperial lords.

 

[Sakura]

Not necessarily. Improving the representation of the Aztecs and other American groups is also impactful for players playing European powers that have to interact with them.

In any case, it's a fallacious question. Improving the Western Hemisphere doesn't necessitate ignoring Europe.

 

[flame7926]

Better simulated Aztecs (and all natives) = (much) better game for all colonial powers, because they have more meaningful interactions with the natives, instead of natives existing only to be pushed down and walked over.

Colonial powers = more important then petty Imperial lords.

I'm all for more meaningful interactions with natives, but not something that applies only to the Aztecs. I do think the HRE is more important than one country that either gets conquered or vasallized, and is one playing possibility, instead of >15 with the HRE.

 

[Rundstedt75]

Why cant we do both?

Because of time and money.