MyMAP or New Map: New country list

[Mad King James]

FREE TAGS:
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ALE
ALI
ALM
ANJ
APA
APU
ART
ASU
AYY
CNW
CRD
CRE
CUM
FRC
HEI
HLL
KIE
LEO
LOU
MSK
POD
POI
POK
SEI
SKA
SLZ
SMO
SUZ
THU
TOU
VAL
VER
VOL
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33 free tags


DEFINITELY ADD:
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Trier
Münster
Ostfriesland
Würzburg
Hum
Epirus
Labbes
Mzab
Bornu
Berar
Khandesh
Kashmir
Jammu
Nepal
Sijilmasa
Pate
Sukhotai
Germiyan
Daimyo
Daimyo
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20 tags total, room for 13 more



IF WE HAVE SPARE TAGS:
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Kartli (reuse Georgia tag?)
Banu Suleym
Zeta
Salzburg
Darfur
Kanem
Bagiurmi
Wadai
Kordofan
Fezzan
Ghadames
Warsenis
Constantine
Bizerta
Achaia
Anhalt
Metz
Wargla
Touggourt
Walayta
Awsa (afar sultanate)
Enarya
Oromia
Luanda
Luba
Bunyoro
Buganda
Rwanda
Macina
Ankole
Wanga
Karagwe
Burundi
Malawi
Monomotapa
Minangkabau
Aru
Jambi
Cirebon
Bone
Tidore
Zapotec
Daimyo
Daimyo
Daimyo
Daimyo
Daimyo
Daimyo
Daimyo
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49 candidate states



CURRENTLY RESERVED (NOT COUNTED AS FREE) BUT UNUSED:
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ALT Tlaxcala
AMG Armagnac ?
ANH Angoche
BEA Bale ?
BUK Bukhara ?
CMG Dawaro ?
CRG Moghulistan
HAM Ha Mi ?
HSA Spanish Hapsburgs Grand Alliance ?
KRE Kefa
KRN Cilli ?
LAN Lancaster ?
LGD Lu Chuan ?
MEA Meng Yang ?
PEU Peru ?
PIC P'urepecha
SHA Shewa ?
SLO Sofala
YOR York ?
ZAP Mixtec
ZEE Zanzibar
U30 Daimyo
U31 Daimyo
U32 Daimyo
U33 Daimyo
U34 Daimyo
U35 Daimyo
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26 reserved states, question mark next to ones that should be discussed

 

[Svantevid]

Don't forget Cilli

 

[almoravid]

Caucasians:
Kartli
Samtskhe - if there are free tags only.

Ideally, each kingdom plus Samtske has a tag. If we're pressed, we could cut both Abkhazia and Samtske, giving Abkhazia to Imereti and Samtskhe to Kartli. If we're really pressed, we could also use the GEO tag to represent Kartli, but that's very ugly and doesn't allow you to play on as Imereti or Kakheti after the split.

 

[Norrefeldt]

33 free tags on the list.
Some South American ones are listed already. I think some reserved ones can be critizised, for example I'm not convinced Lancaster and York are best represented by tags.

 

[almoravid]

Oh, and you forgot Bayreuth.

 

[Garbon]

Central Africa:
Kanem
Bornu

India:
Berar
Khandesh
Kashmir
Jammu
(I think for Bidar we can just the dying Bahmanid Empire tag)
Nepal?

North Africa:
Sijilmasa / Tafilelt revolter

East Africa :
Pemba?
Pate?

 

[Mad King James]

In central Africa we should also have a Darfur revolter.

 

[Garbon]

Well, if it isn't already apparent, there is definitely going to have to be a blocking on several nations that people want to add / a cull put out on some nations. Without even considering Japan, there are about 30 new states (ignoring the possible if we had tags) already proposed in this thread.

 

[Pellucid]

Ugh, why more Indonesian countries? Can't they be part of the "and only if we have spare tags" gang? How come every little Indonesian tribe is represented, but 70% of the North American tribes have been axed? Tribals should be represented as natives and that's that. Only diplomatically active countries or countries that fielded regular armies should get tags assigned to them.

 

[niceta]

The eastern asia was an intersting place.
sholuld be better to find many events to get more intersting to play the region
perhaps 6 more are too many. perhaps..

 

[Jayavarman]

SOUTHEAST ASIA:
Sukhotai (I could have sworn this country was in the early versions of EU2, or am I imagining things? )

 

[Ivan Bajlo]

Come on give me some free tags so I can start adding countries! :rofl:

I don't won't to add bunch of countries and then hear HC is doing something completely different.

 

[muttoneer]

New countries for Mesoamerica (work in progress):
Purepecha (currently assigned PIC)
Tlaxcala (currently assigned ALT)
Mixtec (using ZAP)

Additional countries if there were spare tags:
Zapotec (revolter)

 

[Twoflower]

33 free tags on the list.
Some South American ones are listed already. I think some reserved ones can be critizised, for example I'm not convinced Lancaster and York are best represented by tags.

Ribbon's outstanding work on the WotR should convince you

 

[Lambert Simnel]

Ribbon's outstanding work on the ECW should convince you

Nitpick: You mean Wars of the Roses. ECW is the war between Charles I and Parliament in the 1640s.

 

[Mad King James]

Ugh, why more Indonesian countries? Can't they be part of the "and only if we have spare tags" gang? How come every little Indonesian tribe is represented, but 70% of the North American tribes have been axed? Tribals should be represented as natives and that's that. Only diplomatically active countries or countries that fielded regular armies should get tags assigned to them.

Uh... you might want to pick up a few books to fill the horrid gaps in your knowledge about Indonesia. The fact that you even made such a comparison scares me, as it is a measure of how much your average person knows about the area.

 

[Mad King James]

Central Africa:
East Africa :
Pemba?
Pate?

They were both subject to foreign powers at the time. Pate by, believe it or not, Hormuz, and Pemba by Zanzibar.

 

[Pellucid]

Uh... you might want to pick up a few books to fill the horrid gaps in your knowledge about Indonesia. The fact that you even made such a comparison scares me, as it is a measure of how much your average person knows about the area.

I made the comparison because both groups played approximately the same role historically speaking: major European powers came into the area and had problems with them. I'm not saying that the Mohawk acted the same way as Indonesians act, but I don't see how Indonesian politics are any more valid than North American politics. It's a matter of consistency: either native populations who didn't have much to do with the world until colonization are countries or they are natives. It's inconsistent to say that certain North American tribes aren't worthy of a tag, but every tiny Indonesian nation is.

EDIT: Which isn't even to say I don't think they ARE worthy of a tag...I'm just saying that if they are, then I don't see why the Mohawk in North America AREN'T.

 

[Twoflower]

Nitpick: You mean Wars of the Roses. ECW is the war between Charles I and Parliament in the 1640s.

What ECW? *staresatthewallinnocently* Thanks for the correction, silly me o

 

[Garbon]

They were both subject to foreign powers at the time. Pate by, believe it or not, Hormuz, and Pemba by Zanzibar.

I don't believe that, as I've never seen any sources that say that for Pate.