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Byzantium is not compatible with MyMap; it's playable, but the core provinces are not equally spread. If someone tells me how to do it, I am, of course, willing to assist in resolving this detail.
 

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I posted this in AGCEEP a while ago, I was wondering if MyMap is interested?

MKJ, do you think the Miqmaq and Acadie provinces are a tad big? Miqmaq could easily be split into two provinces given the geographical situation of the province (East New Brunswick is very flat and marshy and contains the important Isthmus of Chignecto while Western New Brunswick is mountainous. Acadie/Nova Scotia can be divided East and West, East was sparely populated during the French era and would include Halifax while West would be Port-Royale/Annapolis Royal and have a port facing into the Bay of Fundy.
 

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Shouldn't the Livland province be Baltic? Of course the Livland province is rather large but from what I've read Latvian/Latgalian was spoken in the region, not a Uralic language.
 

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Semi-Lobster said:
Shouldn't the Livland province be Baltic? Of course the Livland province is rather large but from what I've read Latvian/Latgalian was spoken in the region, not a Uralic language.

u started to be boring with all that stuff about livland
 

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TimurLank said:
u started to be boring with all that stuff about livland

Well MyMap-AGCEEP is supposed to be about accuracy, and I find nothing boring discussing the proper ethno/linguistic distribution of peoples in the Livonian Order.
 

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Semi-Lobster said:
Speaking of Courland, who exactly colonised Courland's colonies? Did German Courlanders go or was it the Latvian Courlanders? Or was it both?
Germans, of course. Baltic population ("Latvian" peasants - Curshes and Zemgales) is too conservative for leaving their homes for any colonies. And in fact Fort Jacob was not a "colony" but a fortress (same as Portuguese Elmina or Danish Christiansborg in Accra).
 

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Semi-Lobster said:
Shouldn't the Livland province be Baltic? Of course the Livland province is rather large but from what I've read Latvian/Latgalian was spoken in the region, not a Uralic language.
Well, in fact hard to answer. The ancient Livs were historically Finno-Ugric population, but during the XII-XVIII centuries the situation changed to Baltic favour. Still Ugric Livland in AGCEEP is made in order not to give Sweden Baltic culture, but allow it to control Livland without penalties.

And Latgalia is indeed 100 % Baltic and it is represented by Dynaburg province on MyMap.
 

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Herr Doctor said:
Germans, of course. Baltic population ("Latvian" peasants - Curshes and Zemgales) is too conservative for leaving their homes for any colonies. And in fact Fort Jacob was not a "colony" but a fortress (same as Portuguese Elmina or Danish Christiansborg in Accra).

Ah, I see, was so the German population never actively sought out to exclude Latvians but the Latvians just wheren't interested in moving to Tobago or Fort Jacob.

Herr Doctor said:
Well, in fact hard to answer. The ancient Livs were historically Finno-Ugric population, but during the XII-XVIII centuries the situation changed to Baltic favour. Still Ugric Livland in AGCEEP is made in order not to give Sweden Baltic culture, but allow it to control Livland without penalties.

And Latgalia is indeed 100 % Baltic and it is represented by Dynaburg province on MyMap.

The ancient Livs (which actually still exist today) are not related to Latvians

Baltic_Languages.jpg


They lived and still live along the the Western shore of the Gulf of Riga, they hardly encompass the entire Livland province
 

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Semi-Lobster said:
The ancient Livs (which actually still exist today) are not related to Latvians

Baltic_Languages.jpg


They lived and still live along the the Western shore of the Gulf of Riga, they hardly encompass the entire Livland province
Quite a strange map (and wrong really). Naturally the Livs occupied the territory of all Western Livland coast (including the place were Riga later was built) and north of Courland (why do you think the land is called Livland/Livonia in contrast to historical Latgalia, which is Dynaburg?). Before the 9-13 centuries Latgalians occupied even smaller territories.
e_186b.jpg


baltuzemzem.JPG


Here you can see the modern day regions of Latgalia and Semigalia (which are almost same as historical):
zemlat.gif
 

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Herr Doctor said:
Quite a strange map (and wrong really). Naturally the Livs occupied the territory of all Western Livland coast (including the place were Riga later was built) and north of Courland (why do you think the land is called Livland/Livonia in contrast to historical Latgalia, which is Dynaburg?). Before the 9-13 centuries Latgalians occupied even smaller territories.
e_186b.jpg


baltuzemzem.JPG


Here you can see the modern day regions of Latgalia and Semigalia (which are almost same as historical):
zemlat.gif

The map is nearly exactly the same as your first one, the 13th century map is also pretty much the same. The Livs USED to be the majority in Livonia until around 1220 when the crusading of the Knights of the Sword devastated the Livonian population and left a vacumm that the Letgallians, Curonians Semigallians etc. filled.
 

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TimurLank said:
but noone see my questions because your conversations take a half page, for one post of other things

Because you're boring, if you want to play new scenarios, make them yourself! Notepad.exe is already installed on your computer, go play with it!
 

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TimurLank said:
but noone see my questions because your conversations take a half page, for one post of other things
if someone wants to comment your posts he will do it...

maybe the problem is that noone is interested in that just like you are not interested in the baltic problem...
 

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Semi-Lobster, many of the weird names of the province sin SE Asia are because I tried to name them according to whatever silly geographical markers I could find. :wacko: