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I have downloaded the 1.63 map and it looks simply beautiful. I like how Germany has been redone, it looks very good.

I have one BUT. The population numbers of the cities are way too high in Germany, they simply don't make any sense.
 
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HYW Revisions

Hello, chaps :)

Playing 1.63, and jolly nice it is. However, during the HYW sequence as England, if I choose to give up my claim on the crown of France in exchange for the duchies of Normandy & Guyenne, there are a few minor problems:

1, Although I get the four provinces of Guyenne (Gascogne, Aquitaine, Saintonge and Poitou), I don't get a core on Gascogne. Presumably this is an error, because I get cores on the other three provinces.

2, when I made peace with France, they ceded both Normandies, Picardie, Champagne and Marne to me. When I chose to only keep the two duchies (option B, Treaty of Troyes), however, I only ceded Picardie back to them. AFAIK, Champagne and Marne should have been ceded back to them, as well as any other French provinces I could have owned.

Finally - and I don't know if this is the case as I went for option B - if a player chooses option C (give up everything + claim), all provinces on the continent should be given back to France. This would include the Channel Islands (a part of the ancient Duchy of Normandy dating back to William the Conqueror) as well as Calais, Edward III's staging ground for future invasions of France.

Hope some of that helped.
 
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Oh, and out of interest, should the Fine Arts Gallery in Thrace not be in Bosphorus? Surely Constantinople itself had more & better such places than Edirne :cool:
 

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Semi-Lobster said:
While I don't agree with the shape of your 'Baja Navarra' province, I do agree that such a province is needed.

http://www.euratlas.com/big/europe_1400.jpg

As you can see, Navarre juts into English Aquitaine and occupies the reginos of Nafarroa Beherea and Zuberoa but not Lapurdi and Castile does in fact retain a small border with Aquitaine. Also the City of Bayonne is obviously English. While a proper Lower Navarre would be useful. IIRC the entire IDgrid in the region is full and there are no free province ID's to use for new provinces.
I've had a feeling that the province of Rouergue is slightly superfluous; it could be merged with Quercy to make space for something new in France... By the way, Rouergue is not present in the new map for Agceep, so dismissing it in Mymap could save (a tiny amount of) work on adjusting future Agceep events.
 
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Code:
WLS = {
	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
	expirydate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1491 }
	minimum = { 838 [COLOR=Yellow]243[/COLOR] }
	extra = { [COLOR=Red]243[/COLOR] }
	capital = 838
	group = latin
	ai = "SmallTrade0.ai"
	}

That way, a player can release Wales as a vassal with both provinces :)
 

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Machinatorculus said:
I've had a feeling that the province of Rouergue is slightly superfluous; it could be merged with Quercy to make space for something new in France... By the way, Rouergue is not present in the new map for Agceep, so dismissing it in Mymap could save (a tiny amount of) work on adjusting future Agceep events.
Well, what do you think Cevennes (it's only geographical name, Rouergue is the name of the biggest county there) represents in AGCEEP map? It is very important for the proper representation of the region. It is not part of Guyenne.

Please, instead of endless map offers address to the events fixing if you would like to help.
 

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mandead said:
Hello, chaps :)

Playing 1.63, and jolly nice it is. However, during the HYW sequence as England, if I choose to give up my claim on the crown of France in exchange for the duchies of Normandy & Guyenne, there are a few minor problems:

1, Although I get the four provinces of Guyenne (Gascogne, Aquitaine, Saintonge and Poitou), I don't get a core on Gascogne. Presumably this is an error, because I get cores on the other three provinces.

2, when I made peace with France, they ceded both Normandies, Picardie, Champagne and Marne to me. When I chose to only keep the two duchies (option B, Treaty of Troyes), however, I only ceded Picardie back to them. AFAIK, Champagne and Marne should have been ceded back to them, as well as any other French provinces I could have owned.

Finally - and I don't know if this is the case as I went for option B - if a player chooses option C (give up everything + claim), all provinces on the continent should be given back to France. This would include the Channel Islands (a part of the ancient Duchy of Normandy dating back to William the Conqueror) as well as Calais, Edward III's staging ground for future invasions of France.

Hope some of that helped.
Could you please fix this stuff in English event file please and post it here?
 

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Herr Doctor said:
Well, what do you think Cevennes (it's only geographical name, Rouergue is the name of the biggest county there) represents in AGCEEP map?
I must've been fooled by the difference in shape, considering Agceep's Cevennes part of Mymap Auvergne; silly indeed. Anyways, as i suck at event scripting, i'll have to continue slipping (im)possible compromises into province disputes. Sorry for being a nuisance, Herr Doctor! ;)
 

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Machinatorculus said:
I must've been fooled by the difference in shape, considering Agceep's Cevennes part of Mymap Auvergne; silly indeed. Anyways, as i suck at event scripting, i'll have to continue slipping (im)possible compromises into province disputes. Sorry for being a nuisance, Herr Doctor! ;)
IIRC AGCEEP map also has Auvergne naturally.

And at last you could report bugs ;) which are still too plenty unfortunately :(
 
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Herr Doctor said:
Could you please fix this stuff in English event file please and post it here?

Sure thing. Give me 10 mins :)
 

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mandead said:
Oh, and out of interest, should the Fine Arts Gallery in Thrace not be in Bosphorus? Surely Constantinople itself had more & better such places than Edirne :cool:
I don't think there was any art worth mentioning being constructed during that period in Constantinople, while Edirne was a thriving city, the 4th largest in Europe.
 
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My suggested amendments:

Code:
#########################
# The Treaty of Troyes  #
#########################

#Negotiations at Troyes

event = {
id = 1000006
random = no
country = ENG
trigger = {
exists = FRA
event = 1000002 #The Assassination of John the Fearless -> BUR
NOT = { 
war = { country = FRA country = ENG } 
}
} 
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1420 }
offset = 20
deathdate = { day = 1 month = september year = 1422 }

name = "Negotiation at Troyes"
desc = "EVENTHIST1000006"

action_a = {
name = "We want the Crown of France !"
command = { type = relation which = BOU value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = BRI value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = BUR value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = DAU value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = ORL value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = PRO value = -50 }
command = { type = badboy value = 1 }
command = { type = trigger which = 1000007 } #The Treaty of Troyes ->BUR
command = { type = sleepevent which = 1000153 } #Guyenne is lost for good... ->ENG
command = { type = sleepevent which = 1000154 } #Guyenne is lost for good... ->ENG
}
action_b = {
name = "Press for the Duchys of Normandy and Guyenne" [COLOR=Yellow]#returns Calais to France in exchange for Norman duchies[/COLOR]
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
command = { type = treasury value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = BOU value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = BRI value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = BUR value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = DAU value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = ORL value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = PRO value = 25 }
[COLOR=Yellow]command = { type = removecore which = 382 } #Calais
command = { type = removecore which = 385 } #Île-de-France[/COLOR]
command = { type = addcore which = 418 } #Saintonge
command = { type = addcore which = 417 } #Poitou
[COLOR=Yellow]command = { type = addcore which = 1415 } #Gascogne[/COLOR]
command = { type = independence which = ORL }
command = { type = independence which = BOU }
command = { type = independence which = PRO }
[COLOR=Yellow]command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 376 } #Champagne
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 1406 } #Marne
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 382 } #Calais[/COLOR]
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 383 } #Picardie
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 386 } #Nivernais
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 407 } #Dauphiné
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 408 } #Lyonnais
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 409 } #Bourgogne
command = { type = secedeprovince which = PRO value = 412 } #Maine
command = { type = secedeprovince which = PRO value = 416 } #Quercy
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 417 } #Poitou
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 419 } #Limousin
command = { type = secedeprovince which = BOU value = 420 } #Auvergne
command = { type = secedeprovince which = BOU value = 421 } #Haut Languedoc
command = { type = secedeprovince which = BOU value = 1402 } #Rouergue
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 422 } #Bas Languedoc
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 1415 } #Gascogne
command = { type = secedeprovince which = BOU value = 1417 } #Bresse
command = { type = trigger which = 1000100 } #The Treaty of Orleans ->FRA
command = { type = sleepevent which = 1000021 } #The Estate of Charles VI ->ENG
command = { type = sleepevent which = 1000045 } #Weakening of the English Positions in France ->ENG
command = { type = sleepevent which = 1000155 } #Paris is lost for good... ->ENG
command = { type = sleepevent which = 1000156 } #Anjou and Maine are lost for good... ->ENG
command = { type = sleepevent which = 1000157 } #Orleans is lost for good... ->ENG
}
action_c = {
name = "Renounce our mad ambitions once and for all !" [COLOR=Yellow]#returns all continental possessions to France, including Channel Islands (part of ancient Duchy of Normandy)[/COLOR]
command = { type = stability value = -2 }
command = { type = treasury value = 150 }
command = { type = relation which = BOU value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = BRI value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = BUR value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = DAU value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = ORL value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = PRO value = 50 }
[COLOR=Yellow]command = { type = removecore which = 382 } #Calais[/COLOR]
command = { type = removecore which = 384 } #Haute Normandie
command = { type = removecore which = 385 } #Île-de-France
command = { type = removecore which = 413 } #Basse Normandie
[COLOR=Yellow]command = { type = removecore which = 424 } #Aquitaine[/COLOR]
[COLOR=Yellow]command = { type = removecore which = 1335 } #Channel Islands[/COLOR]
command = { type = independence which = ORL }
command = { type = independence which = BOU }
command = { type = independence which = PRO }
[COLOR=Yellow]command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 1335 } #Channel Islands
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 1406 } #Marne
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 382 } #Calais [/COLOR]
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 383 } #Picardie
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 384 } #Haute Normandie
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 386 } #Nivernai
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 407 } #Dauphiné
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 408 } #Lyonnais
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 409 } #Bourgogne
command = { type = secedeprovince which = PRO value = 412 } #Maine
command = { type = secedeprovince which = PRO value = 416 } #Quercy
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 413 } #Basse Normandie
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 417 } #Poitou
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 418 } #Saintonge
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 419 } #Limousin
command = { type = secedeprovince which = BOU value = 420 } #Auvergne
command = { type = secedeprovince which = BOU value = 421 } #Haut Languedoc
command = { type = secedeprovince which = BOU value = 1402 } #Rouergue
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 410 } #Berry
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 422 } #Bas Languedoc
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 423 } #Trois-Évêchés
[COLOR=Yellow]command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 424 } #Aquitaine[/COLOR]
command = { type = trigger which = 1000010 } #The Generous Peace of Henry V ->FRA
command = { type = sleepevent which = 1000021 } #The Estate of Charles VI ->ENG
command = { type = sleepevent which = 1000045 } #Weakening of the English Positions in France ->ENG
command = { type = sleepevent which = 1000150 } #Normandy is lost for good... ->ENG
command = { type = sleepevent which = 1000151 } #Normandy is lost for good... ->ENG
command = { type = sleepevent which = 1000153 } #Guyenne is lost for good... ->ENG
command = { type = sleepevent which = 1000154 } #Guyenne is lost for good... ->ENG
command = { type = sleepevent which = 1000155 } #Paris is lost for good... ->ENG
command = { type = sleepevent which = 1000156 } #Anjou and Maine are lost for good... ->ENG
command = { type = sleepevent which = 1000157 } #Orleans is lost for good... ->ENG
command = { type = badboy value = -1 }
}
}

:)
 
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Herr Doctor said:
Thanks a lot, mandead!

No worries. I'll go through the HYW stuff and amend what I need to :)