Please new culture Slavonian/German for Silesia, Pomerania perhaps also Lusatia, Brandenburg, Meisen, Mecklenburg ...
PS This game them of alternative history
PS This game them of alternative history
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rybka wrote: much better would be to create silesian culture, it is not that it existed, but it could represent this mixture of german/polish/czech cultures
Sorry for my bad english...
Sorry for my bad english...
i think he meant something like culture germano-slavic, not so bad ideaSlimG said:
brandenburg, saxony, meissen, bohemia, austria and poland could get it after meeting some agreed conditions (owning two or three provs with such culture maybe?) and of course minor countries like pommerania or silesian duchies should have it
Its kind of regional culture for balance matters. Much as “swiss” for example.rybka said:
It would be unrealistic though. I think we should stick with the current setup. I don't like those "artificial" cultures to make it easier for some states to govern specific regions ...
but they governed them easier than it is now, i dont think in average people in kulmerland were less loyal to polish king than people in gerater polandBasileios I said:
now we have situation that teutonic order, which owned kulmerland for 100 years (45 during eu2) has this province culture as national and poland which owned this province for 300 (during eu2 period) doesnt
...and, more importantly than simple owning, both countries saw little resistance or other drawbacks.rybka said:
Machinatorculus said:
TO met with massive resitance there. For example the Lizard Union, Preussische Stadtbund etc.
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I like the idea of the new culture, as mixture of Slavic and German cultures, but I am not quite sure if it would work in reality. Why should we change Kulmerland or Ermland culture at all?:/ Poland is doing good right now, there are no bigger problems with it. The case looks cool now, just remove cores on Mazovia and add the events about annexation.
P.S.
we could do the same thing with the Moldovia, but I don't know if it is ok.. It was also kind a place of struggle of foreign influences (Lithuania, Poland, Hungary, Ottos)
P.S.
we could do the same thing with the Moldovia, but I don't know if it is ok.. It was also kind a place of struggle of foreign influences (Lithuania, Poland, Hungary, Ottos)
I would prefer only Austria to get it after the Bohemian inheritance. Before it (and after) no other state should easily control Silesia as their legitimate possessions.rybka said:
Herr Doctor said:
Poland was doing some efforts and acquired large portions of Silesia in 15 century (Siewierz, Zator and Oswiecim).
Silesia was relatively independent not because Silesians felt to be a separate society but because they were a buffer zone between neighbouring powers: Poland, Bohemia, Hungary and Brandenburg.
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In my opinion Poland should also get the possibility of controling it with no problems. Even during the Jagiellonian reign in Bohemia there were some efforts to gain Silesia back, however the king of Bohemia was too influenced by Habsburgs.
Also I saw on polish forum event about Meeting In Vienna, where polish king decided to leave Boehemian and Hungarian throne to Habsburgs, it could be interesting alternative history.. Just a proposition
I lack the last event, about Polish annexation of Pomerania, I don't know if it makes sense, so correct my mistakes if it is needed. What do you think about it?
Also I saw on polish forum event about Meeting In Vienna, where polish king decided to leave Boehemian and Hungarian throne to Habsburgs, it could be interesting alternative history.. Just a proposition
Code:
# Treaty of Stettin#
event = {
id = XXX1
trigger = {
owned = { province = 302 data = POL } # Pomerania
}
random = no
country = POL
name = "Treaty of Stettin"
desc = "After capturing the terrains of Pomerania, with such significant cities as Stargard, Kammin and Rügenwalde polish king decided to give the gained territories back to Duke of Pomerania. The same year king of Poland and Duke of Pomerania met in Stettin to discuss the conditions of the agreement. It has been decided that Poland gives the lands of Hinterpommern as a feud to the Duke, but Duke and his descendants had to swear loyalty to the Crown. It has also been decided that in future, when the death of last Duke of Pomerania, the duchy will be incorporated into the Crown."
style = 2
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 60
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1637 }
action_a ={ #Accept the New Vassal#
name = "Long live Pomerania!"
command = { type = dynastic which = POM }
command = { type = relation which = BRA value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = POM value = 100}
command = { type = relation which = BRA value = 100 }
command = { type = vassal which = POM}
command = { type = alliance which = POM }
command = { type = treasury value = 100 }
command = { type = trigger which = XXX2 }
command = { type = badboy value = -1}
}
action_b ={ #Claim Ownership#
name = "Say "no" to the Duke!"
command = { type = relation which = POM value = -150 }
command = { type = relation which = BRA value = -50 }
command = { type = badboy value = 2 }
}
}
event = {
id = XXX2
random = no
country = POM
name = "Treaty of Stettin"
desc = "After capturing the terrains of Pomerania, with such significant cities as Stargard, Kammin and Rügenwalde polish king decided to give the gained territories back to Duke of Pomerania. The same year king of Poland and Duke of Pomerania met in Stettin to discuss the conditions of the agreement. It has been decided that Poland gives the lands of Hinterpommern as a feud to the Duke, but Duke and his descendants had to swear loyalty to the Crown. It has also been decided that in future, when the death of last Duke of Pomerania, the duchy will be incorporated into the Crown."
style = 2
action_a ={
name = "God bless our cousin!"
command = { type = relation which = BRA value = -100 }
command = { type = treasury value = -100 }
command = { type = trigger which = XXX3 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 3895 }
}
}
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Herr Doctor said:Much as Swiss cantons
A for Silesian culture to represent the ethnic melting pot of Silesia, then I am of course for. In fact I proposed it long before in this thread though it was rejected by majority of debators then.
However, neighbouring powers should have this culture or at least a chance to acquire it.
But then we need to rework the whole culture system, also on the Balkans and in Greece ...
Herr Doctor said:
so whats the conclusion?
new germano-slavic culture for these provinces:
pommerania, kulmerland, warmland, teschen, brieg-liegnitz, schlesien, oels, oppeln, kustrin, sudeten, what about lusatia and erz?
these culture at start would have only: pommernia, teutonic order, bohemia (if we decide to give this culture to lusatia, if not, boehamia should get it later), silesian duchies (oppeln, teschen, brieg-liegnitz, oels)
austria will get if it annexed bohemia (including some silesian duchies) with existing events
brandenburg after annexing pommern (and it would have to own kustrin or some province in silesia)
poland only if it owns:
- one of (warmland, kulmerlan)
- one of pommern / kustrin
- one of silesian duchies
saxony or meissen after annexing whole lusatia (if we give lusatia german-slavic culture)
bohemia (if not given at start) could get this culure if romanianists have won against hussites and if they still control sudeten and schlesien and aditionally at least one (or two) more silesian duchy?