Seems reasonable, still I think that we should not add “change culture” sequences because it makes the things looking quite strange (forcing changing of identity etc). Also I think neither TO, no Lithuania should gain core on Warsaw (Mazovia prov will be enough).Stettiner said:
Coz he is formal head of state (all provinces had same stadhauders after Willem). Same reason as the Sejm is not the HOS of Poland.rybka said:
No, it is bad idea. Brandenburg should purchase Neumark as historically. We should not have overpowered Poland again (I do not want to lower any stats unhistorical anymore).rybka said:
It is for the sake of balance and historicity (Polish kings never claimed the duchy from the Pomeranian dukes). So please leave it as it is.rybka said:
This was already fixed in the latest version.rybka said:
NO!!! Please no this deterministic change culture things. The forced change culture thing is look like some kind of absurd genocide and absolutely have no sense. Both AI and player Poland could act quite nicely with the Prussian lands being of the other culture.rybka said:
its not this event, purchase is still in, event i deleted is if when poland got neumark later fighting against brandenburg, from gameplay it is pure nonsense giving back province you got after war (choise a), or choise b) brandenburg declares war on you, when it was just defeated (it had to give you at least 1 province)Herr Doctor said:
it cant be left as it was, becouse now pommerania province is not capitol! capitol is in stettin, so pommerania might still exists!, the only choise is to secede this province to pommerania. have you even checked these events?? besides in game a lot of coutries take lands they didnt claim and there are no events returning provinces to loosers ...Herr Doctor said:
please convince me why poland should get -25% tax penalty for 2 provinces it owned historically for 300 years?Herr Doctor said:
i dont think i did any more changes to poland besides thoses i mentioned. i also lowered pol-lit relations decrease in few events, like in these new events for laws on galicia (there was one in pure agceep, we didvided it to three) and one for mazovia i wrote sometime ago, they cummulated with vanilla relations drops and it was too much alltoghetherHerr Doctor said:
Well, you could always change the description of the event, but the fact is that Poland should not own any part of Pommern. Pomeranian duchies and the Polish court traditionally were in a very good relations, and I cannot agree that any Polish king in his good mind would ever seriously think to usurp Pommeranian lands.rybka said:
Really it is not the best argument. England did owned Ireland for 300 years (in 1400s) but I hardly could agree that it should get its culture or change culture to its provinces. This is very different region from the rest of Poland, with its own traditions (both legal and cultural), and such forced change culture events should not be tolerated in MyMap. I believe we already discussed this before: Prussian lands should not be an easy task for changing culture.rybka said:
And what the point? I can make the counteroffer: if you think Poland is to weak in game (and it is not now) lets just increase these provinces base tax by 1…rybka said:
It is not a nonsense. I for example do not want to see 25 % penalty for TO or later Prussia retaking these lands with high German population; as much as I do not want to see even more “change culture” events.rybka said:
There were two in vanilla: Red Ruthenia and Podolia.rybka said:
ok ill try to rewrite this event to secede province to pommerania and get some 50 gold for it + some relations improvement, dont tell me any king would do it for freeHerr Doctor said:
ok, so german culture to poland than?Herr Doctor said:
no, i suuggested it just to keep income on the same levelHerr Doctor said:
you still didnt explain me why poland should have for 300 years -25% income comparing to other provinces, even assuming they where culturally different doesnt mean they paid less taxes! if you are aware of any different way of avoiding this please writeHerr Doctor said:
agung pasha said:
Mad King James said:
Mad King James said:
event = { #Lithuania gains control of Mazovia
id = XXXX
trigger = {
owned = { province = 291 data = LIT } # Mazovia
}
random = no
country = LIT
name = "Mazovia"
desc = "After a harsh struggle we have managed to capture Plock. However Poland, our most important ally also has claim on this territory. What shall we do my lord? "
style = 1
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 60
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1819 }
action_a ={ #Incorporate it#
name = "Incorporate it!"
command = { type = addcore which = 291 }
command = { type = relation which = POL value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = LAT value = -100 }
command = { type = badboy value = 2 }
}
action_b = {
name = "Secede it to the Crown.."
command = { type = relation which = POL value = 100}
command = { type = treasury value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = LAT value = -50 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = POL value = 291 }
command = { type = badboy value = -1 }
}
}
event = { #TO gains control of Mazovia
id = XXXX
trigger = {
owned = { province = 291 data = LAT} # Mazovia
}
random = no
country = LAT
name = "Mazovia"
desc = "After a harsh struggle we have managed to capture Plock. What shall we do my lord? "
style = 1
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 60
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1819 }
action_a ={ #Incorporate it#
name = "Incorporate!"
command = { type = addcore which = 291 }
command = { type = relation which = POL value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = LIT value = -100 }
command = { type = badboy value = 2 }
command = { type = provinceculture which = 291 value = german }
}
}
event = { #Poland gains control of Mazovia
id = XXXX
trigger = {
owned = { province = 291 data = POL} # Mazovia
}
random = no
country = POL
name = "Mazovia"
desc = " The last princes of the Masovian line of the Piast dynasty lived short lives and were more interested in trivial distractions than in governing their state. When Janusz IV died in 1526, few cried, and Poland had no problems with incorporating their once-owned province back into the Crown. Mazovia is finally under our suzerainty!"
style = 1
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 60
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1819 }
action_a ={ #Incorporate it#
name = "Incorporate!"
command = { type = addcore which = 291 }
command = { type = relation which = LAT value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = LIT value = -25 }
}
}
event = { #Poland gains control of Varsovia
id = XXXX
trigger = {
owned = { province = 879 data = POL } # Varsovia
}
random = no
country = POL
name = "Warsaw"
desc = " The last princes of the Masovian line of the Piast dynasty lived short lives and were more interested in trivial distractions than in governing their state. When the last Piast died, few cried, and Poland had no problems with incorporating their once-owned province back into the Crown."
style = 1
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 60
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1819 }
action_a ={ #Incorporate it#
name = "Incorporate it!"
command = { type = addcore which = 879 }
}
}
event = { #Poland gains control of whole Mazovia [earlier version of “Inheritance of Mazovia” event]
id = XXXX
trigger = {
owned = { province = 879 data = POL } # Varsovia
owned = { province = 291 data = POL } # Mazovia
}
random = no
country = POL
name = " The Polish Inheritance of Masovia"
desc = " The last princes of the Masovian line of the Piast dynasty lived short lives and were more interested in trivial distractions than in governing their state. When the last Piast died, few cried, and Poland had no problems with incorporating their once-owned province back into the Crown."
style = 1
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 60
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1520 }
action_a ={ #Incorporate it#
name = " Make it a personal royal fiefdom”
command = { type = treasury value = 200 }
command = { type = revoltrisk which = 3 value = 3 }
}
action_b ={ #Give it piecemeal to different Magnates#
name = "ACTIONNAME3473B"
command = { type = domestic which = CENTRALIZATION value = -1 }
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
}
}Mad King James said:
rybka said:
Not early that I add Scottish to Lithuaniarybka said:ok, so german culture to poland than?
Really, why Lithuania should be penalized for owning Smolensk within three centuries? It was also Ruthenian not Russian for instance. Should be change this and dozens of similar cases? Danish Holstein, English Ireland, Swedish Pommerania etc etc let change the cultures in the entire world.rybka said:
Indeed, I do not like change cultures events at all if they are connected with special multicultural regions…rybka said:btw you probably dont like stettiners event that changes culture in mazovia to german if teutons capture it
So, still I do not understand what the point to add Lapland? Just because somebody wish so?agung pasha said:
It does not matter what language was spoken by the peasants, but the culture of the citizens and aristocrats are more important.rybka said:
I like the idea. So no culture change events.rybka said:
I do not like Poland too, so what the trouble?rybka said:
Already suggested Pommernian core on Ukermark to AgungStettiner said:
It would be OK logically, but technically it would lead to the endless diploannexation of tinny Pommerania by Poland.Stettiner said: