my troops are supplied but receive an out of supply penalty

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After telling the US that I laught at their Monroe Doctrine, I invaded Brazil. Luckly for me I had seized Portugal before, so I could attack from Cape Verde to aboid a HUGE logistic penalty. I landed in Recife and conquered the province.

The surprise came when I went to attack the next province... my troops where considered out of supply, and receiving a -20% penalty! But I had a convoy to Recife (and another one to Cape Verde) with more than enough transports. Despite the penalty, I managed to conquer Brazil. Then, when I went vs Argentina... My logistic penalty was lowed (I had Brazil now as a base), but I had again a -20% out-of-supply penalty!

To solve the problem, I edited a savegame and moved my capital to Recife. I no longer have the penalty... but this seems to be a bug to me. Solutions?

 

[Tel]

I noticed the same thing when I attack Norway with Germany. It's a pretty serious problem if you're playing on very hard and have a built in 20% penalty and you have another automatic 20% penalty whenever you attack and don't have a land connection to your capital (I assume this is the reason for the penalty based on your post.) I was having a serious problem defeating Norweigian units even when I outnumbered them and attacked from two directions - those two penalties, along with terrain and bad weather penalties, not to mention night penalties, really add up.

Edit: Is there a reason for this penalty? I am guessing that it was deliberately programmed in this way, but I don't really see the logic for it, especially now with logistics distances added in. It seems like Japan would be totally screwed if they get a 20% penalty for any attack except on the home islands.

 

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there is a huge problem with supply and logistics if you are not able to attack from nearby OWNED ( annexed = territory. mil. access, captured etc... don´t work. probably will this resolved in 1.06 revision ( i hope ).

also the supply source will not be updated unless you move your units onto OWN territory - noticed that with german units in the near east ( before i didn´t annexed a country - i believe it was syria - i got no supply from the nearby provinces that i captured )

you must move all your units to the annexed lands otherwise - you get the penalty which is quite severe. how realistic is that ?

 

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Actually, my problem is that my troops are attacking from a OWNED province. I annexed Brazil so their provinces are owned, now. Despite that, and despite having 100 transports sending supplies and oil to Recife, my troops receive the "out-of-supply" penalty when attacking Argentina, unless I move my capital to Brazil. (The "logistic distances" penalty is very small, since Brazil is owned).

 

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okay, seems the "out of supply" and logistics problems are not related.

my findings were mostly for the logistic penality.

will look closely on the supply bug in further gaming.

perhaps we find the cause.

 

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Thanks

I'm not very sure about the conditions. What I've told is a game with Rep.Spain, and when fighting in Africa I have no problems (maybe because I've national provinces there?)

I think also that the logistic penalty issue should be changed a bit. You should be able to trace a route from any province, owned or controlled, with a Resource Poll. otherwise conquering the USA is an impossible task for Japan or Germany. But that should be a topic for another thread...