My racially-segregated, slaver, isolationist, individualist Burundi is lacking qualified worker. Which of its properties you think are causing it?

[paulxiep]

Year is 1887. My Burundi is doing well in beating the Europeans at the scramble for Africa game.
Russia had a colony which extended much inland but I took it by force, and blocked its re-expansion.
Britain has started on the severe malaria region, but without malaria prevention tech, growth is negligible.
I'm beelining the tech myself. If I happen to get the tech before the UK, I should have most of these lands.

Problem is, I'm lacking in skilled workers. I've transitioned from iron construction to steel construction, but it took me 2 whole years, because my new steel mills and chemical factories couldn't hire. The hiring rate was like 100 a month. I already subsidized both factories, and had greener grass campaign and social mobility decree too.

The problem might be with one of the 4 properties I've decided to give my Burundi, namely

Racially-segregated - is definitely preventing the mass migration from choosing my country as a destination, tho I'm not sure how big the pop gain from these mass migration could be.
Debt-slavery - might be restricting some segment of population to manual labor. Still this is the most defining properties of this run, and the last I want to get rid of.
Isolationist - I decided to live with the penalty to tech spread, but would joining someone's market give me the immigration I need? More likely, it'd have an adverse affect and have pops migrate out instead, so long as I maintain the slaver aspect.
Individualist - I've decided to go with the extreme capitalism regime, where everything (I'm talking Education and Healthcare, mainly) is privatized and even humans are capital. My private education might be preventing the majority of my pops from getting the qualifications I'm lacking.

I'm thinking I'll have to rid my Burundi of something, but will just enacting public education do the trick? I happen to have strong labor union clout right now, so I could add them to government and start enacting straight away.
I actually wanted to enact multiculturalism too, but slavery is blocking the option. A shame tho, I wanted an extreme capitalist debt slavery, not racial slavery. It's ahistorical but does sound slightly better than its historical counterpart, why should the option be restricted? Well, I could mod to enable the option easily, but then I lose the 'bragging rights'.

Welp, I think I just answered my own question. First I'll enact public education, and if that doesn't help, I might have to mod it to enable multiculturalism.
Sure, going full liberal (and ban slavery) is the obvious answer, but then it would defeat the challenge and point of this run.

 

[Fawr]

Can you tell how much education is holding your qualifications back compared to the penalties from many people being disadvantaged? Are some states (with more disadvantaged pops) more of a problem than other states?

What % of your people are slaves? I think if you have 20% slaves then you will have 20% less qualifications as the slaves don't learn any new professions. That would be cancelled out by social mobility, but if you have a higher % then it wouldn't be.

 

[Xeiki]

How many Universities do you have? Those lead to qualified pops.

 

[DukeLeto42]

"Yes"

 

[MfgLuckbot]

Problem is, I'm lacking in skilled workers. I've transitioned from iron construction to steel construction, but it took me 2 whole years, because my new steel mills and chemical factories couldn't hire. The hiring rate was like 100 a month. I already subsidized both factories, and had greener grass campaign and social mobility decree too.

I think with your very restrictive law setup you are better off going wide than going tall.

Try to get more pops through colonization and conquest, maybe you can get qualified people into your borders that way. And even if they are just as uneducated you can at least build more buildings with low-tech PMs

 

[paulxiep]

Can you tell how much education is holding your qualifications back compared to the penalties from many people being disadvantaged? Are some states (with more disadvantaged pops) more of a problem than other states?

What % of your people are slaves? I think if you have 20% slaves then you will have 20% less qualifications as the slaves don't learn any new professions. That would be cancelled out by social mobility, but if you have a higher % then it wouldn't be.

Not sure what you mean. I had full private education (which was level 3, giving 1.5% education per wealth, that means to get equal education to public education, the pop must have wealth level 20, which is of course something my poor pops don't have). So I've switched to public education to give a flat 30% education instead. I just got human rights tech so I'm enacting compulsory school now too, so education will be level 5 soon enough.


10% of pops (nation-wide) are slaves. The 2 states with steel mills and chemical plants has 20% and 7%, respectively.
Other than slaves, none of my pop except the 200k Russians from conquered colonies are discriminated. It's pre-European Africa so everyone is African-heritage.

How many Universities do you have? Those lead to qualified pops.

I have 10 total levels of universities but 8 of those are in the capital, not in the problem states. I'm not sure if qualification thing applies country-wide or just 1 state.

I think with your very restrictive law setup you are better off going wide than going tall.

Try to get more pops through colonization and conquest, maybe you can get qualified people into your borders that way. And even if they are just as uneducated you can at least build more buildings with low-tech PMs

Many problems are convoluted. To use more primitive pm, I'll need to build a lot more buildings, that in itself is expensive. I'll also need a lot more mines, particularly more sulfur and lead mines than I have the resources for. I'll also need a lot more workers too, and my pop isn't exactly big. In less profitable buildings I'm already applying some automation so it can stay in business and keep the economy going.

Getting more pops is the problem itself. The majority of population in Africa are either in the uncolonized severe malaria region (which is why I'm beelining Malaria Prevention right now), or they're in the coastal West Africa that trade arms with Europeans and thus are stronger than me (that said I'm already conquering them as fast as my infamy would decay, with help of my ally France). The areas accessible at start (which still requires Quinine tech) doesn't have that much population and I already have most of that.

 

[Ir0nSlug]

I don't really understand how qualification works, but the bonus from university is state wide, not country wide. You also got a decree to boost qualification. If you are on Private Schools, it grants a pop education access relative to the pop Standard of Living, meaning that low SoI pops will have poor qualifications and so won't be able to climb up to qualified jobs. Public Schools, while it would generate less education access on very high average SoI will grant the same amount to every pop, making it easier to poorest pop to climb. Also, education access of a pop is not immediate, but slowly grows to its max level. I have noticed that African states start with very low qualifications, having problems to fill up even rural buildings. Also it seems all jobs of a building are tied, so if a building can only hire say 1/3 capitalists, it will also be limited to 1/3 to all other jobs types.

That's what I got. So I think your only problematic law is Private Schools, try to switch to public ones, use Social Mobility decree in problematic states and if you are rich enough build a single university (but that shouldn't be necessary with PubSchools) and be patient.

One thing that seem to work, is use the lowest PM on buildings will it fill up, and when it's full switch the PM, it should keep most of its employees.

 

[TheLand]

Racially-segregated - is definitely preventing the mass migration from choosing my country as a destination, tho I'm not sure how big the pop gain from these mass migration could be.
Debt-slavery - might be restricting some segment of population to manual labor. Still this is the most defining properties of this run, and the last I want to get rid of.
Isolationist - I decided to live with the penalty to tech spread, but would joining someone's market give me the immigration I need? More likely, it'd have an adverse affect and have pops migrate out instead, so long as I maintain the slaver aspect.
Individualist - I've decided to go with the extreme capitalism regime, where everything (I'm talking Education and Healthcare, mainly) is privatized and even humans are capital. My private education might be preventing the majority of my pops from getting the qualifications I'm lacking.

You have decent Standard of Living and Literacy so probably the problems are:
- low population
- racial segregation - unaccepted cultures have trouble becoming some advance kinds of PoPs
- I'm guessing much of your territory is unincorporated so won't get the health or education bonuses from the institutions?

Slavery is not very relevant to qualifications in vanilla, slaves seem to be able to qualify to become other PoPs an anyway you say they are only 10% of your population.

Isolationism will not have an impact, and private healthcare/education will not really have much impact given that your literacy levels are fine.

Which specific POP types are you lacking qualifications for? How intensively are you building?

 

[Ingor]

Isolationism will not have an impact, and private healthcare/education will not really have much impact given that your literacy levels are fine.

Private education is always the worst. A flat 50% education access from public / religious schools is always to be preferred.

 

[TheLand]

Private education is always the worst. A flat 50% education access from public / religious schools is always to be preferred.

Oh yes I agree private education is a worse law, but I don't think that 55% literacy will be holding back many pops from upgrading themselves. Academics and Engineers are available at 20% literacy and increase linearly after that, if your literacy is 55% then you are getting close to half your possible max number of qualifications, and the maximum number is truly massive.

 

[Blastaz]

Incorporate all your states and build universities (one level per million people in the state was a rule of thumb I heard) in each state you want to encourage qualifications. The social climbing decree will also help obviously.

 

[FranklyJustNess]

Private education is always the worst. A flat 50% education access from public / religious schools is always to be preferred.

Doesn't private become strictly better at +20 wealth? Which isn't actually all that high.

 

[TheLand]

Doesn't private become strictly better at +20 wealth? Which isn't actually all that high.

Yes, though it's calculated on a per-pop level. If your average wealth is 20 (which is pretty high?) then most of your population will be <20. And it's your poorer, less-educated POPs that you care about most. Your POPs at 15 wealth will have 30% literacy from wealth plus 7.5% per level from private schools - say they end up at 45% (vs 50% with other schools). Your POPs at wealth 25 will have 50% from wealth and 12.5% per level from private schools and end up at 75% (not 70%).

There are largely diminishing returns to additional literacy.

And all of these figures are ludicrously high!

 

[Ir0nSlug]

Doesn't private become strictly better at +20 wealth? Which isn't actually all that high.

On paper only, because it's applied by pop. There also is a base education access that already depends on wealth and is unrelated to laws. So with private schools and +20 average wealth, your poorest pops will have less education access than with Public Schools, while your richer pops would have hit the max cap of 100% a while ago (with the decree).

It matters if you have an egalitarian society because your poors will have a harder time getting literate, if you are chasing the "Educated" achivement or egalitarian objective (that requires >90% literacy).

 

[RELee]

The game lacks chocolate.

It is the ultimate mood altering food.

 

[paulxiep]

You have decent Standard of Living and Literacy so probably the problems are:
- low population
- racial segregation - unaccepted cultures have trouble becoming some advance kinds of PoPs
- I'm guessing much of your territory is unincorporated so won't get the health or education bonuses from the institutions?

Slavery is not very relevant to qualifications in vanilla, slaves seem to be able to qualify to become other PoPs an anyway you say they are only 10% of your population.

Isolationism will not have an impact, and private healthcare/education will not really have much impact given that your literacy levels are fine.

Which specific POP types are you lacking qualifications for? How intensively are you building?

Incorporate all your states and build universities (one level per million people in the state was a rule of thumb I heard) in each state you want to encourage qualifications. The social climbing decree will also help obviously.

My states are incorporated almost as soon as I get / finish colonizing them. I incorporate right away or send new gov offices to the top of building queue and incorporate right after. The incorporation only takes 5 years too. The problem appears to have been private education, or maybe it's the fact that those problem states were newly-developed former colonies. They had lower base wage because there was no other production on them yet.

Doesn't private become strictly better at +20 wealth? Which isn't actually all that high.

Aside from what others have said, 20 wealth is very high if we're talking about lower strata in isolated Central Africa.

 

[Blastaz]

Private education is a very niche case: it is strictly better at an average lower class wealth of 20-25, it is better for tech at an average societal wealth of 20-25. Above wealth 25 all are equal as education access has maxed out at 100. Below average wealth 20 public is better.

This means that, somewhat paradoxically, in cases of high lower strata wealth (such as under communist worker cooperatives…) private education is better than public - but in unequal societies public education is better at producing drones for the factories.

The law you should change from a RP perspective is isolationism. Why isn’t your ultra cap society free market?