my norse pagan run

[wooby]

first is it normal that i started as fairhait in viking age, he is now 29 and i can reform the faith?
is conquering norway and sweden rly that easy or i am just lucky?

Second what kind of reform picks would you advise?

 

[Woifee]

If you start 867 and later the viking age already started.

Germanic is easy to reform. And yes, it’s easy if you do it right.

What ever floats your boat.

 

[wooby]

what does "An important additional caveat is that the religion must have a current religious head. As the event triggers for the religious head at the time of death, but happens 3 days after that, this means that temporal leaders of the faith can not be considered for ancestor veneration without transferring the temporal leadership title to another character." mean exactly ? its the ancestor veneration/saint thread in the ck2 wiki. do i have to transfer my religious titel before death to be able to become a "saint" or not?

 

[junassa]

what does "An important additional caveat is that the religion must have a current religious head. As the event triggers for the religious head at the time of death, but happens 3 days after that, this means that temporal leaders of the faith can not be considered for ancestor veneration without transferring the temporal leadership title to another character." mean exactly ? its the ancestor veneration/saint thread in the ck2 wiki. do i have to transfer my religious titel before death to be able to become a "saint" or not?

If you reformed your religion to have ancestor veneration and temporal leadership then the religious leader will not be venerated upon death. We don't know yet whether or not it's intentional or a bug. Having said that we have two workarounds: either use a mod that fixes this, or to give the religious title to someone else. I've done the latter and I first land my heir then give him/her the title. You have to do it in that order, because the religious title itself does not allow for betrothals/marriages.

 

[Seclouds]

With new warrior lodge and tribal retinue, 20-25 years to found sacdinavia empire. Keep all lands in my hand, less vassals less troubles more retinue cap. It's easy to have 9-15k retinue troops.

 

[WJS]

If you reformed your religion to have ancestor veneration and temporal leadership then the religious leader will not be venerated upon death. We don't know yet whether or not it's intentional or a bug. Having said that we have two workarounds: either use a mod that fixes this, or to give the religious title to someone else. I've done the latter and I first land my heir then give him/her the title. You have to do it in that order, because the religious title itself does not allow for betrothals/marriages.

Basically, you can never name yourself a saint. Whether that's by design or not, it's something that doesn't need fixing.

 

[junassa]

Basically, you can never name yourself a saint. Whether that's by design or not, it's something that doesn't need fixing.

First of all while while the player may control both characters (the recently dead religious leader and the new leader) in game they are different people and second it's not the leader who initiates the veneration but other relatives. The leader either accepts or denies the request.

 

[WJS]

First of all while while the player may control both characters (the recently dead religious leader and the new leader) in game they are different people and second it's not the leader who initiates the veneration but other relatives. The leader either accepts or denies the request.

Yes, they are different characters, both controlled by the player. What's happening is a conflict between time of death for a character and time of acceptance of the new character for control, and this conflict causes the decision to name your previously controlled a saint never to fire for the new player character.

You can never name yourself a saint.

I know, it sounds ridiculous and unfair. They're different characters, I should be allowed to choose whether I'm (in my previous character) venerated or not. But listen to that. That's just cheese, plain and simple, and all the arguments devolve to wanting to cheese the system.

You can never name yourself a saint.

Never expect it to be changed.

 

[junassa]

I know, it sounds ridiculous and unfair. They're different characters, I should be allowed to choose whether I'm (in my previous character) venerated or not. But listen to that. That's just cheese, plain and simple, and all the arguments devolve to wanting to cheese the system.

It's not cheese because the player has no control over whether the event fires or not, which I already stated in my previous post that you quoted.