My new Revolt text file for 105 C

[dannyboy2016]

I have edited the revolt.txt file for 105.C to add afew more possible countries. Now, pretty much every country with an abbreviation in the config text file is possible to create. Many other nations have had their territories changed around. For instance If you own Goa and create India, India will recieve Goa. Of course this will generally only happen if Portugal joins the axis but it happens often enough that I figured I'd give India a claim on that territory. Likewise, Russia now will get all 1936 soviet territories, plus kars, Finland, Moldavia, and Eastern Poland as its claimed provinces. However, Russia's claims on East Prussia have been removed.

The added countries are: Egypt, Palestine, Syria, Lebanon, Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia, Libya, Jordan, Burma, Sarawak, Malaysia, Indochina, Slovenia, Montenegro, Serbia, Byelorussia, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Khazakstan, Kirgyztan, Tadjikistan, Georgia, Armenia, and Azerbaijan.

So have fun liberating these countries

Questions, comments, and cries of anguish may be shouted out here or emailed to me at danielshannon@hotmail.com be certain to put HOI in the subject of the email however so I don't miss it.

Pick up the file here:

http://www.boomspeed.com/danielshan/revolt.rar

 

[Maximilian I]

linked into the beta forum

 

[unmerged(18985)]

Where is the beta forum?

Also, the download is a .rar file. How do I install it?

Thanks

 

[h345]

can u make it into zip format

 

[unmerged(16020)]

Get WinRAR.

 

[Vulture]

Looking at it

 

[SykoNurse]

Originally posted by h345
can u make it into zip format

sure

 

[dannyboy2016]

I had a problem liberating Denmark as the Soviet Union it caused the game to crash. I'll check out my revolt file in the morning and see if there is anything problematic in regards to Denmark.

Its a shame, it ended a swell game. I has liberated Indochina and Korea and got them to join the Commintern I was landing in Japan and pushing into France. And it was just 44. Swell game really

Just goes to show that I should autosave more frequently.

If anyone has some ctd problems with granting independance to certain countries let me know. Also any suggestions and complaints regarding the provinces assigned to the nations, once again let me know.

Thanks to the mod for putting it in zip format.

Daniel

 

[Vulture]

I'll look if I can reproduce crashes...

Btw... IS it possible for Poland to liberate Russia with your revolt file? Same for Turkey in Trabzon and Kars

 

[dannyboy2016]

Poland can liberate Russia, it'd get the Polish territories that Russia lost after ww1. Turkey could with Kars, Russia would just get Kars however. Finland could also liberate Russia, in which case Russia would get all of finland. We could undo this and just have Russia get the Soviet territories 1936. I gave it those claims to represent some sort of horrible fascist/tsarist Russia thats created after a hypothetical German victory. Not something that Hitler would have done, mind you, but something I've seen players talk about.

Thanks for checking out the Denmark situation. I don't know whats up there.

 

[Jace]

2 things were do i extact it to and will it work for any of the mods such as Stony road and Core

 

[unmerged(16020)]

Well, it replaces the revolt textfile (db folder). It should work with other mods but would overwrite any revolt.txt changes made by the mods. I'm not sure what that would do however.

It really needs to be made so you have to control the capital in order to liverate a country.

 

[Halibutt]

Originally posted by danielshannon
Poland can liberate Russia, it'd get the Polish territories that Russia lost after ww1. Turkey could with Kars, Russia would just get Kars however. Finland could also liberate Russia, in which case Russia would get all of finland. We could undo this and just have Russia get the Soviet territories 1936.

I always wondered who was the author of this idea...

Poland should be able to liberate Ukraine, maybe even liberate Byelorussia (although with some 0.01% probability), but caving into demands of a non-existent country? How the hell?
- Mister president, I have a proposal for you.
- Yes, Sashen'ka..?
- Why don't you give us all the territories you were fighting for so that we finally had some tsarist Russia again...
- Splendid idea, Sasha, I'll edit the files right away!
Cheers

 

[jdrou]

Originally posted by Halibutt
Poland should be able to liberate Ukraine, maybe even liberate Byelorussia (although with some 0.01% probability), but caving into demands of a non-existent country? How the hell?

First it's not 'caving into demands'. If the liberate function was working properly then they would be Poland's puppet. If it's done by event then the event that gives independence can also make them a puppet. The liberated country wouldn't be Tsarist (unless you deliberately make the minister file for that); it would probably be Paternal Autocrat just like Poland normally is in the game.

Second, there is no way to specify WHO can liberate a country in revolt.txt. Anyone who has any of that country's territory can liberate it. If you are playing Poland and don't want to liberate Russia then don't. The AI won't do it except by event so just don't use any events that do that.

 

[Halibutt]

Originally posted by jdrou
First it's not 'caving into demands'. If the liberate function was working properly then they would be Poland's puppet. If it's done by event then the event that gives independence can also make them a puppet. The liberated country wouldn't be Tsarist (unless you deliberately make the minister file for that); it would probably be Paternal Autocrat just like Poland normally is in the game.

Second, there is no way to specify WHO can liberate a country in revolt.txt. Anyone who has any of that country's territory can liberate it. If you are playing Poland and don't want to liberate Russia then don't. The AI won't do it except by event so just don't use any events that do that.

I know how the system works (and I think I know how it was supposed to work). However, I still don't get it: what is this for? Were there any HoI-timeframe countries in reestablishing tsarist russia in its' XIX-century borders? I don't think so. And the most probable countries to have such an opportunity are Poland, USSR and Germany... why would they chose to do that? I think it's just stuffing the game engine with yet another part of code to look after, nothing more.
Cheers

 

[jdrou]

Originally posted by Halibutt
I think it's just stuffing the game engine with yet another part of code to look after, nothing more.
Cheers

The only additional code is having Russia defined in revolt.txt which is about 16 lines. Since the revolt.txt functionality already existed in the engine in EU2 that is not additional code just for Russia. I really don't see what the big deal is; some people just want an ahistorical option. There are plenty of others in the game and I don't think having this in took any significant programmer time away from the rest of the game.

 

[Halibutt]

Originally posted by jdrou
The only additional code is having Russia defined in revolt.txt which is about 16 lines. Since the revolt.txt functionality already existed in the engine in EU2 that is not additional code just for Russia. I really don't see what the big deal is; some people just want an ahistorical option. There are plenty of others in the game and I don't think having this in took any significant programmer time away from the rest of the game.

Even if it is so, I still cannot see any sense behind it. It's neither historical, historically possible, nor it adds any flavour to the game. A much better choice would be adding Ukraine to revolt.txt and allowing Poland (or whoever owns it) to create it.
Cheers

 

[dannyboy2016]

Ukraine is already in the revolt file and Poland can create it. The same is also true of Belarus.

Russia and all the former Soviet Republics are there for anyone so interested to create if they so choose. For example, I made Russia after defeating the Soviet Union as the USA. Purely an RP related thing. If I was playing Germany I'd have no such interest, though I've heard German players express such a desire. That being said, I think that the game should be set up so that you need the revolter's capital to liberate the puppet regime. The Russian lands that Poland has under its control are the curzon line areas which are also Byelorussian and Ukrainian. Poland could create any of the three from the start. I think that Russia, Belarus, and Ukraine have legitmate claims on that part of 1936 Poland (those areas aren't polish today for a reason). This doesn't really take anything away from the game, it just gives you more options mostly for rp. AI Poland won't create a Russia existing in Lwov, Wilno, Pinsk, etc, so I don't see what the problem is.

And liberated puppets only get the revolt territories under the control of the liberator. So, Russia would only get finland, eastern poland, etc if some nation owned all of those territories and decided to create a Russia out of them. Not really something that will happen often.

So, I don't quite get what you are upset about. Paradox already had Russia as a revolter and with claims on Konigsberg to boot, so that the Germans could make them in 1936.

 

[Halibutt]

trying to be constructive...

Originally posted by danielshannon
Ukraine is already in the revolt file and Poland can create it. The same is also true of Belarus.

Great, I didn't see Ukraine in vanilla HoI eventhough it was the only coutry that could've been creted by either Poland or Germany

Russia and all the former Soviet Republics are there for anyone so interested to create if they so choose. For example, I made Russia after defeating the Soviet Union as the USA. Purely an RP related thing.

I see.

The Russian lands that Poland has under its control are the curzon line areas which are also Byelorussian and Ukrainian. Poland could create any of the three from the start.

Curzon line was but a line on the paper and should definitely be not a limit for white russian claims. The main reason for Poland not supporting the whites in 1920 was that they demanded all pre-1914 russian borders, not just what lord Curzon thought was a good border and proposed the Reds with. The line however would make some sense for the Ukraine. The only problem being that the Curzon line did not go as far south...

I think that Russia, Belarus, and Ukraine have legitmate claims on that part of 1936 Poland (those areas aren't polish today for a reason).

Ethnic cleansing and mass deportations were the main reason.

So, I don't quite get what you are upset about. Paradox already had Russia as a revolter and with claims on Konigsberg to boot, so that the Germans could make them in 1936.

I'm not upset. I'm only pointing out the lack of logic or historical probability behind certain choices.
Cheers

 

[dannyboy2016]

Yes, that ethnic cleansing remark is very true. But there were legimiate Ukrainian and Byelorussian claims on those areas before such atrocities were undertaken.

I am thinking about just giving the Russia revolter modern Russia's territory sans Kaliningrad. I'm been too busy beta testing Victoria to revise this revolt file. But I'll hop to it asap.

Thanks for your interest in it. Give it a spin, you might like it. I had a fine game where I gave independance to Algeria as France, saved, and loaded the saved game as Algeria. Although I was ministerless, I still had some fun.

Anywho, thanks for your interest again.