My idiot son inherits?

[Radiohead]

I'm using the law of Salic Cosanguinity to help ensure my best son inherits with each successive generation, and that's worked fine until this one.

Currently my king has strong stats, and is only 36, but he is severely wounded and has an illness, so I think he's going to die soon, of my 3 of age sons:

Eldest:

Bertrand - Brilliant Strategist with 17|11|13|8

Middle:

Jacopo - Misguided Warrior with 8|4|6|9

Youngest:

Centule - Elusive Shadow with 7|14|13|13

None of them command any counties.

My two preferred heirs are obviously Bertrand or Centule depending on what happens between now and when the king dies, but in my inheritance list, Jacopo is listed first? Why does the game want to give everything to my idiot son when he's not even the eldest? What formula does Salic Cosanguinity use?

I know I can easily bump the other two up the inheritance order by giving them each counties, but shouldn't they be listed first anyway?

 

[cpappa]

I'm using the law of Salic Cosanguinity to help ensure my best son inherits with each successive generation, and that's worked fine until this one.

Currently my king has strong stats, and is only 36, but he is severely wounded and has an illness, so I think he's going to die soon, of my 3 of age sons:

Eldest:

Bertrand - Brilliant Strategist with 17|11|13|8

Middle:

Jacopo - Misguided Warrior with 8|4|6|9

Youngest:

Centule - Elusive Shadow with 7|14|13|13

None of them command any counties.

My two preferred heirs are obviously Bertrand or Centule depending on what happens between now and when the king dies, but in my inheritance list, Jacopo is listed first? Why does the game want to give everything to my idiot son when he's not even the eldest? What formula does Salic Cosanguinity use?

I know I can easily bump the other two up the inheritance order by giving them each counties, but shouldn't they be listed first anyway?

What is Jacopo's prestige? I believe that is what Salic Cosanguinity uses to determine who inherits. My guess is that Jacopo is higher than Bertrand's or Centule's. Of course I haven't played Crusader Kings in a while so I may be wrong.

 

[Aat Jago]

What is Jacopo's prestige? I believe that is what Salic Cosanguinity uses to determine who inherits. My guess is that Jacopo is higher than Bertrand's or Centule's. Of course I haven't played Crusader Kings in a while so I may be wrong.

AFAIK, Salic Consanguity determine your heir from the strongest one either in martial state or in temporal power. In your case, the successor no 1 have higher martial stats than that dude number 2, so of course he's first in line to succeed. So if you want dude number 2 to inherit, give him more province, and also a duke title if you can. That will put him ahead of dude number 1 in succession line.

Hope that helps

 

[unmerged(176048)]

AFAIK, Salic Consanguity determine your heir from the strongest one either in martial state or in temporal power. In your case, the successor no 1 have higher martial stats than that dude number 2, so of course he's first in line to succeed. So if you want dude number 2 to inherit, give him more province, and also a duke title if you can. That will put him ahead of dude number 1 in succession line.

Hope that helps

Except that it is dude number 2 (Jacobo) who is listed as the heir. Not dude number 1 (Bertrand).

I wonder if it uses base stats (before trait modifiers) to determine who is the most martial? That doesn't seem right. Bertrand has a 9 martial before the brilliant strategist trait is counted in; Jacobo only has a 6 if you don't count misguided warrior. Unless there are other traits. But even so, I didn't think they used base stats.

Very odd.

 

[TempestDK]

Except that it is dude number 2 (Jacobo) who is listed as the heir. Not dude number 1 (Bertrand).

I wonder if it uses base stats (before trait modifiers) to determine who is the most martial? That doesn't seem right. Bertrand has a 9 martial before the brilliant strategist trait is counted in; Jacobo only has a 6 if you don't count misguided warrior. Unless there are other traits. But even so, I didn't think they used base stats.

Very odd.

It does I think. So you could look up the base stats in the save game file. There Jacopo would most likely have a higher unmodified martial stat than his brothers.

 

[Snaake]

Bertrand and Jacopo could easily have personality traits that mod their martial stats too... (lowers it for Jacopo and raises for Bertrand), that'd make it possible for the misguided warrior to have better original martial skill than the brilliant strategist.

Btw, what version of the game are you playing? Or does the game always use base stats, regardless of version/mod?

 

[Veldmaarschalk]

The easiest thing to get the desired son as your primary heir is to give him a title

 

[Yakman]

also, your "undesired son" still is pretty good.

i've done well with rulers who have worse stats.

then again, i don't genetically engineer my family like some people...

 

[Radiohead]

The easiest thing to get the desired son as your primary heir is to give him a title

Yeah, I'm aware of that, that's what I ended up doing so that Bertrand ended up taking over.

I'm playing 2.1 beta with DVIP addon.


So the consensus is that inheritance is based on original unmodified stats prior to education?

 

[Nick B II]

Yeah, I'm aware of that, that's what I ended up doing so that Bertrand ended up taking over.

I'm playing 2.1 beta with DVIP addon.


So the consensus is that inheritance is based on original unmodified stats prior to education?

That's not just consensus. It is true.

You can easily verify. The tooltip for all the traits includes their affects on stats, so you can calculate everyone's base stats with simple addition.

The idea is the guy who has the most talent with a sword will be most admired.

Nick

 

[Jayavarman]

Give Jacopo the "die" command.