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So, I'm just trying to understand the mechanics behind this situation (vanilla CK2, latest patch).

I am a viking. I like women, beer, hanging Christians, talking too loud, wrestling with bears and playing Dark Ages football. I have decided to appoint as my Spymaster an old, hairy, dirty-looking guy who happens to be homosexual; and some years later, when I'm checking my relationships, I notice that I'm his lover. I'm still straight. He's the one who has Homosexual. I don't. But he has schemed his way inside me anyway. And then we kept on being lovers for decades until he died at 82.

(No screenshots, sorry; it was Ironman and that ruler already died)

So...

What happened here? Only 1 of the men in a relationship needs to be homosexual? Is he a secret woman? Am I gay for my spymaster, while still being straight generally? Could he at least shave?, it's itchy when he kisses me.
 
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.....

So...

What happened here? Only 1 of the men in a relationship needs to be homosexual? Is he a secret woman? Am I gay for my spymaster, while still being straight generally? Could he at least shave?, it's itchy when he kisses me.

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Sleep on your back from now on.
 
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Maybe you were homosexual before, then stopped, but kept your dirty old man lover?
 

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It's normal for people to try out new things.

I guess your ruler decided that hooking up with a dirty old hobo off the street was just his thing :p
 
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I chalk this up to the same thing as male duchesses: a funny bug.
 

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Maybe you were homosexual before, then stopped, but kept your dirty old man lover?

I'm sure I never had the trait, it's not something I would have missed. I haven't been homosexual for a single day of my life, except for the fact that apparently I have had a lot of sex with that guy.
 

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Vikings were cool with that kind of thing. Sometimes you just hooked up with a dude and sometimes you didn't.
 
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If Gaahl can be gay, so can your Viking.


But yeah, I've had this happen to me before, I'd like to know why too.
 

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If Gaahl can be gay, so can your Viking.

I still don't believe Gaahl. It can't be true. It just can't.

Now that you mention it, my spymaster kind of looked like him though.
 

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I'm sure I never had the trait, it's not something I would have missed. I haven't been homosexual for a single day of my life, except for the fact that apparently I have had a lot of sex with that guy.

But who was giving and who was recieving. As far as I understand, a viking didn't need to be a homo to give...
 

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Vikings were cool with that kind of thing. Sometimes you just hooked up with a dude and sometimes you didn't.

It's a spectrum. Having the trait means you mostly prefer same sex partners, and it carries all the stigma that had at the time. Absence of the trait means you prefer opposite sex partners, but doesn't exclude same sex partners.
 
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So, I'm just trying to understand the mechanics behind this situation (vanilla CK2, latest patch).

I am a viking. I like women, beer, hanging Christians, talking too loud, wrestling with bears and playing Dark Ages football. I have decided to appoint as my Spymaster an old, hairy, dirty-looking guy who happens to be homosexual; and some years later, when I'm checking my relationships, I notice that I'm his lover. I'm still straight. He's the one who has Homosexual. I don't. But he has schemed his way inside me anyway. And then we kept on being lovers for decades until he died at 82.

(No screenshots, sorry; it was Ironman and that ruler already died)

So...

What happened here? Only 1 of the men in a relationship needs to be homosexual? Is he a secret woman? Am I gay for my spymaster, while still being straight generally? Could he at least shave?, it's itchy when he kisses me.

Can I use the title as part of my quotes list?

And in topic, I'd roll with it (maybe by rolling on the floor after finding out first time), as this is something that, while it doesn't make much sense, I don't think this is too big of an issue.

You may want to report this though. Or not (please don't).
 

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Can I use the title as part of my quotes list?

And in topic, I'd roll with it (maybe by rolling on the floor after finding out first time), as this is something that, while it doesn't make much sense, I don't think this is too big of an issue.

You may want to report this though. Or not (please don't).

Sure, feel free to do it.

I don't think I'll report it as a bug, honestly it was too fun.
 
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I am a viking. I like women, beer, hanging Christians, talking too loud, wrestling with bears and playing Dark Ages football. I have decided to appoint as my Spymaster an old, hairy, dirty-looking guy who happens to be homosexual; and some years later, when I'm checking my relationships, I notice that I'm his lover. I'm still straight. He's the one who has Homosexual. I don't. But he has schemed his way inside me anyway. And then we kept on being lovers for decades until he died at 82.
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What happened here?
One, I love "schemed his way inside me".

Two, it's pretty obvious what's going on here:

You're a secret bear.
 
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The title of this thread could have been very misleading - it could have been about a very promiscuous duchess!

But yeah I didn't realize this could happen. Kind of cool becuase there are so few homosexuals in game, it's hard to imagine any of them ever realistically hooking up. It's nice to know they can get some action too.

One, I love "schemed his way inside me".

Indeed, excellent post all around.
 
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