My heretic Byzantine empress can command armies?

[RedRooster81]

I haven't played since a few patches ago, but I was surprised when I pulled my Byzantine troops together (a few generations into the game) and found my 19 MIL empress leading the army?! I'm not complaining but seems female rulers can lead their own armies in vanilla now.

If this is a bug, well, forget I reported it.

No, seriously. Forget. I. Reported. It. *fades into shadows*

 

[Slayen]

All female rulers can lead their own armies now.

 

[RedRooster81]

Cool. Thanks.

 

[Groogy]

They can lead their own armies only.

 

[Mach Twelve]

They can lead their own armies only.

Well that's helpful, my Irish Empire is led by an 15 Martial Empress and she is having a little issue with the uppity English deciding to put her cousin on the throne.

 

[Xinkc]

Looks like I can have a line of Visigothic and Castilian warrior queens lead the Reconquista now! Too bad female heirs and close relatives cannot fight as well. One could imagine a warrior queen would want to prove the male naysayers wrong by having her sisters/aunts/daughters/granddaughters fight along side her.

 

[Donelloth]

Huh. I thought that got cut over the course of the pre-dev diaries because of the backlash. Glad to see it made it in. Kudos.

 

[DPS]

Huh. I thought that got cut over the course of the pre-dev diaries because of the backlash. Glad to see it made it in. Kudos.

Well, that does beg the question: is this a feature or a bug?

 

[Maarten99]

Well, that does beg the question: is this a feature or a bug?

Depends on who you ask, really.

 

[Donelloth]

I mean, given Groogy's input it seems clear that its both known and intentional. Gonna go with feature.

 

[Thure]

Yes it's a feature. Why should it be a bug? Because a loud minority claims that noble women never lead armies? Female army leaders did exist and this are only female rulers who did this historically too.

 

[Groogy]

Huh. I thought that got cut over the course of the pre-dev diaries because of the backlash. Glad to see it made it in. Kudos.

There was a backlash from one person who didn't even understand what the change was claiming that every army in the entire world would be lead by female commanders (I am exaggerating but its not that far from what he said...)

I want my Brilliant Strategist Norse Queen with 33 Martial to lead my armies, having her sit and be pretty at the castle in Scandinavia is just dumb.

 

[TheDungen]

Huh? Is that any flank containing your leavies/retinue or do it have do be contraining only your leavies/retinue?

 

[Urzhail64]

They can lead their own armies only.

The change is greatly appreciated - I've never liked having my high martial female countess/duchess not being able to lead armies if I was playing a non-Norse realm. Especially since females did in some cases lead armies.

 

[Urzhail64]

I want my Brilliant Strategist Norse Queen with 33 Martial to lead my armies, having her sit and be pretty at the castle in Scandinavia is just dumb.

Must not have been a Norse pagan. Before that change, Norse pagan females were perfectly capable of leading armies. Well I guess that's *another* strike against Christianity. ;P

 

[DPS]

Yes it's a feature. Why should it be a bug? Because a loud minority claims that noble women never lead armies? Female army leaders did exist and this are only female rulers who did this historically too.

Donnelloth posted that it was supposed to have been cut, which suggests that its inclusion was a bug. I agree that female rulers should be able to lead their own armies.

 

[Slayen]

Donnelloth posted that it was supposed to have been cut, which suggests that its inclusion was a bug. I agree that female rulers should be able to lead their own armies.

Donnelloth (not a dev) might have thought it was cut, but Groogy (a dev) indicates otherwise. So baring someone higher in the CK2 foodchain coming down and saying otherwise, I'd say its safe to call it a feature.

 

[Knotz]

Quick question: males sometimes get battle/war events where they kill lots of people or do something really brave and they get a 100 prestige for it, anyone know if that event fires for female leaders too? I don't think it has for mine so far but it's not terribly common either so maybe I'm just unlucky.