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I have subjugated Rum and in turn acquired Petra, Halicarnasus, and Hagia Sophia.
  • Hagia Sophia is not active, yet there is no explanation for it.
  • Halicarnasus is active and available to expand.
  • Petra is being repaired, so that it might become useful.
How do I activate Hagia Sophia? Does I need to move my capital to Constantinople or something?

EDIT: Answers
  • Hagia Sophia's active condition is religion based: either be Muslim (or heresy), Catholic, or Orthodox. Re-conversion events fire a week after acquisition.
  • Stonehenge active condition is religion based: pagan.
  • Non-provincial benefits from GW affect top liege only.
 
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Some of these Great Works only work for specific cultures. A case in point would be Stonehenge. It's inactive for Anglo-Saxon, Morman, and English Cultures, and I think it might be inactive for Welsh cultures too...
 

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I have subjugated Rum and in turn acquired Petra, Halicarnasus, and Hagia Sophia.
  • Hagia Sophia is not active, yet there is no explanation for it.
  • Halicarnasus is active and available to expand.
  • Petra is being repaired, so that it might become useful.
How do I activate Hagia Sophia? Does I need to move my capital to Constantinople or something?

I am not sure of your religion, but the Hagia Sophia can only ever become active for Catholic, Orthodox, and Muslims.
 

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I am not sure of your religion, but the Hagia Sophia can only ever become active for Catholic, Orthodox, and Muslims.
And they have to not be heresies.

So bummed when my Court Chaplain finally discovered Bogomilism and then found out Hagia Sophia no longer worked. (Actually, at first I kept getting that 'upgrade to Great Work suspended' notification every month and pushing 'resume' only to get it again the next month and wondering what the heck was going on. Can't upgrade if it's inactive.)
 

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.. A case in point would be Stonehenge. It's inactive for Anglo-Saxon, Morman, and English Cultures, and I think it might be inactive for Welsh cultures too...

Nah. It requires to be in the pagan religious group. That's all.
 

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And they have to not be heresies.

So bummed when my Court Chaplain finally discovered Bogomilism and then found out Hagia Sophia no longer worked. (Actually, at first I kept getting that 'upgrade to Great Work suspended' notification every month and pushing 'resume' only to get it again the next month and wondering what the heck was going on. Can't upgrade if it's inactive.)

It's not the heresy status that matters, actually. Heretical Muslims are fine. It only requires your religion to be Catholic, Orthodox, or Muslim. It's just that Catholic means Catholic and Orthodox means Orthodox, not heresies of those religions (and if a heresy took over and Catholicism or Orthodoxy became heresies, the Hagia Sophia would still work only for them).

For Muslims the whole religious group is fine, heresy or not. A bit unfair if you ask me!
 

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Some of these Great Works only work for specific cultures. A case in point would be Stonehenge. It's inactive for Anglo-Saxon, Morman, and English Cultures, and I think it might be inactive for Welsh cultures too...

As @Aardvark Bellay mentioned Stonhenge has no cultural requirement, it just requires a religion from the pagan religious group.

There is no wonder that has a strict cultural requirement to be active. The horse statue becomes active with Horse culture and the pyramid of Giza with Coptic or Egyptian culture, but either one also becomes active if you are a Lunatic. Additionally the horse statue is always active for nomads, and the pyramid of Giza is always active if you have the Pyramid Creation doctrine.

Certain other wonders have cultural requirements to build (but all have alternatives to the cultures as well), yet once they are built they don't require them to be active.

(Note that regular pyramids use the same requirements for building that the pyramid of Giza uses to be active, but once regular pyramids are built then they are always active.)
 

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The Hagia Sophia also needs the conversion event to be active. Playing as the Nicene Empire in the Latin Empire bookmark I had the same question as the OP until it fired. You would think somewhere in the tooltip it would mention "is converted to your religion" as one of the requirements.
 

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The Hagia Sophia also needs the conversion event to be active. Playing as the Nicene Empire in the Latin Empire bookmark I had the same question as the OP until it fired. You would think somewhere in the tooltip it would mention "is converted to your religion" as one of the requirements.

Good point! Yeah, the conversion event fires 7 days after you get the wonder, because... I don't know, just to mess with us? :D
 

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The Hagia Sophia also needs the conversion event to be active.

Guess that conversion event fires only for Catholic, Orthodox, and Muslims, right? That's why my Tengri nomad bois ain't getting love.

In a FB group it's been stated that you need a non-tribal or non-nomad government in order for it to be active. Can any of you confirm such claims?

EDIT: I've also read that, in general, the Great Work will only benefit the ultimate ruler i.e. must be independent to be active.
 

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Guess that conversion event fires only for Catholic, Orthodox, and Muslims, right? That's why my Tengri nomad bois ain't getting love.

This is correct.

In a FB group it's been stated that you need a non-tribal or non-nomad government in order for it to be active. Can any of you confirm such claims?

This is incorrect. Only religion matters.

EDIT: I've also read that, in general, the Great Work will only benefit the ultimate ruler i.e. must be independent to be active.

They always benefit the top liege when they are active. The exception are those wonders which have local province modifiers, which go to the province in question. The top liege is still the one that gets all the non-provincial benefits. :)
 

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