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Hmm, bessarabia without the mrcpact, thats a good one. Since its a deal involving splitting land in eastern europe i do think it depends on the mrpact to happen. The, thing is that romania starts leaning to the axis on its own account after it loses bessarabia, meaning you have to do little to get them on board. Now you might have to actively pull them in. Baltic states annexation also depends on the mrpact.

Aircraft carriers have problems killing enemy ships early in the game. The longer you go on the more dangerous their torpedo bokbers become. By 1944 they tend to be really deadly in my experience, once theyr outfitted with 1943 level air torpedoes.
 

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This is, as I've said, really interesting. I am enjoying it. Although it isn't an aar, it is fairly close as you are presenting it. I don't know about old farts and technology. I'm 69 and enjoy using it. Definitely solves my problem when I want to play a game.
 

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At Sebas; it seems Romania does need a push...see the comment below. About the CVs I finally got my first sinking...a CVL. Takes one to know one I guess.:D

Yeah Forster, you're right about the age bit being a non-factor. I used 'old dog' but it should really have been a "sick old dog".Fido is not very frisky.:)


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* November 1940 saw pesky Nepal and Bhutan defeated and about half of India lose its red. All Indian ports are in Japanese hands.
* On 29 Nov. I finally sank a Brit CVL with one of my CVs
* 3 Jan 41 The Undeclared War-event by the USA
* Jan-June - Romania continues to move away from the Axis corner. Germany is trying to influence at times but even then, it cannot pull the neutral nation back to any degree when the U.K. adds influence because the numbers still slightly favor the Allies at 22.79 vs 20.67. I'm guessing here, but since the SU is still Romania's largest threat it will take the Russians going to war to put Romania in the Axis corner. Neutrality stands at 35.78 and needs to drop below 25.

The Med

The Italians started off with a bang by knocking the Brits out of Egypt and North Africa and taking down Iraq. However, they did not capture Cypress and Gibraltar and that proved disastrous. Since my (Japan) riddling of all British forces east of South Africa, the U.K. A.I. has wisely focused on the near problem of the Med. Since there were few Italian troops holding the gains, the Brits have reclaimed Alexandria and pushed to Bengasi. British Marines had also taken Albania and the native Italian ports of Cagliari and Olbia, that has the Italians making new attacks in those areas. What looks to be a decent Army has landed n Tripoli to try and halt the Brits but a minor landing near Olbia looks doomed from the start. The British will not hold Albania either because of a huge Axis force swinging that way. Any allied landing in the south always causes a serious overreaction. The Italians are making one other move, they are finally going after Cypress but since they landed on the airbase side of the island, I doubt they will succeed. Such is the high-cost of leaving Gibraltar in British hands with a port to rebase deep into the Med.

Pacific bases

It's late June, 1941 and my "1st Conquest of the Pacific" is now complete but not without doing something quite gamey. Since my expansion till the present time has happened far faster than I can make wagon-loads of GARs, I finally had to accept that "GARs will arrive when they arrive". The reason is I took 2 Marine Corps, a few Infantry Corps with 2 assault fleets and very quickly, island-hopped the rest of the Allied (current) bases in the Pacific, figuring if they retake one unguarded then I will deal with it. Along the way, I discovered Guadalcanal was Australian? so they had to go the puppet route . Ofc course New Zealand then had to follow suit. With both of them in the Axis corner (shh, it's a secret) I made a fairly quick run through Nauru,
Luganville and the other near naval bases, Guadalcanal and surrounding bases in New Guinea, the French bases of Noumea, Tarawa and the other ports in the Gilberts, then British Fongafale and finally Fiji, the last stronghold of the British in the Pacific. A real bummer about this operation was I sunk the Australian Navy in the process and most of NZ’s TPs. I wish that hadn’t happened.

Preparations

I will eventually cover all these bases with GARx2. Surprisingly my next IC run will defend many of them. Until I have enough, a INF div will sit and wait. I hope what this huge effort will do is prevent the U.S. from using ANY Pacific port or airfield other than their own. 2 GARs is not going to hold against US Marines but my plan is to spread defensive response forces in key regions, like Japan did with Truk in the real war. Ofc I intend on going on the Offense I just wanted to make sure that American offensives are readily seen and the ranges of the Fleets and Wings greatly curtailed by having no free rebasing for masses of U.S. ships and planes, were they have not had to fight to go. Arrgh!

I expect to be at war soon, actually a little surprised I’m not. If Germany had not been putting the magic-whammy on the Yanks I probably would be. Anyway, since I see the big war nearing I'm doing a statistical review of all forces to see how things stand when the greater-war triggers. Many don’t care about this kind of stuff but I’m ex-QA/SPC, so its in my blood so to speak and I’ll share it next for those that might enjoy a gamey analysis.
 

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July 1941
In rapid succession events fired bringing Germany into war with the Soviets, though neither appeared ready for the delayed Barbarossa. Quickly the U.S. followed suit and declared war on Japan.

Battle-regions around the world are undecided with the British and Italians in a slug-fest in North Africa and Egypt. The Italians hold Tripoli and Tel Aviv and the U.K. all ports between. Malta is still in Italian hands but Cypress withstood an invasion while Corsica remains up for grabs.

At the time of America's DOW, Germany was pushing in 2 prongs around the Pripet marshes. There is no action yet from the Soviets on the Finnish front. One point of interest in this war between the Germans and Russians is that there is a large
German force under General Model of 14 HARM/ARM-led Divs in Northern Norway for some reason. Can't wait to see what develops on the Finnish front.

Romania still remains neutral even after everyone else has went to war. They have drifted a little below midpoint towards the Axis but the nation still remains far from joining anyone.

I was not quite ready but I am in good shape, since I had made several deployments of Fleets and Wings to desirable bases around Guam and Wake. The massive Battleships Yamato and Musashi with new Type V CLs and DDs are nearing completion and will give me 9 BBs. Two state-of the art CVs, the Akagi and Amagi, were recently started and when finished will make 8 fleet-carriers in service with 1 CVL. The only Radar I have are in Tokyo, Gaoxiong and Truk, all will soon be lvl 5. Tokyo is rather obvious but I chose the other two because Gaoxiong is near the often targeted S.W. coast of the mainland and Truk because it is the hub of my forces and is my stronghold in the distant Pacific.

Tech-wise I am in very good shape with Carrier Task Force, Commerce Defense and Unrestricted Submarine Warfare all completed. Probably more important, is that all my 42 Techs are either completed or will be by end of the year. All ships of any type will have the latest radar tech with the last, my SSs, finished by 7 Oct. A second Transport-plane and the needed PARs are nearing completion and will be ready early next year.

Statistics at War Start July 1941
Axis Total IC 850 Total MP 4,969
Allies Total IC 1,090 Total MP 3,591


Category Leaders
IC Germany 367
IC USA 520
Manpower Japan 2,426
Manpower S.U. 2,016
Energy Germany MAX
Energy US & SU MAX
Metal Germany 30,519
Metal US MAX
Rares Japan MAX
Rares US 99,047
Oil Germany 46,163
Oil US MAX
Supplies Japan 91,659
Supplies US 99,107
Fuel Germany 92,674
Fuel SU 99,994
Money Germany 11,607
Money US 18,541
Officer-Ratio Japan 132%
Officer-Ratio UK 133%
National Unity Germany 84%
National Unity Canada 88%
Comparison Total
Axis Brigades Ships Planes
1544 227 168
Allies & SU Brigades Ships Planes
1408 327 174


Country Brigades/Ships/Planes
AXIS
Bulgaria - 61/2/1
Finland - 67/10/1
Germany - 590/25/66
Hungary - 116/0/10
Italy - 122/59/24
Japan - 473/125/53
Australia - 10/3/7
Manchukuo - 60/0/0
Mengkukuo - 16/0/0
NZ - 7/0/2
Siam - 22/3/4

Country Brigades/Ships/ Planes
ALLIES
Canada - 60/29/11
France - 8/11/2
UK - 139/50/46
SU - 772/42/46
USA - 209/171/55
S.A - 49/10/8
Belgium - 11/2/2
Yemen - 7/0/0
Denmark - 3/2/0
Netherlands - 0/10/3
Iraq - 0/0/1
Philippines - 22/0/0
C.China - 45/0/0
Mongolia - 27/0/0
Sinkiang - 45/0/0
Tannu Tuva - 11/0/0
 

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Germany screwed up BIG with that Norway force. There is a 0 infra wall between northern Norway and Finland so they are cocmpletly useless over there.
The Allies have quite the fleet advantage, thats something you as Japan have to deal with soon. Other than that this looks to be turning into an interesting war.
Do you by any chance intend to assist Germany by hitting the Soveits from the rear once Germany draws all their attention? It could be the killing blow.
 

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Germany screwed up BIG with that Norway force. There is a 0 infra wall between northern Norway and Finland so they are cocmpletly useless over there.
Yeah, I think you are correct. I am only wishing something good will come of that. Germany has access into Sweden so a few units are trekking across to Norway. I suppose I could tag and try to get that Army to Finnish soil but I know for certain that Finland is already near rock-bottom on supplies. I wish when we tagged and gave an order, that lone order would not be overridden when we tagged back and the A.I. resumes control. To attempt to keep valuble games from going off the rails; a 'one order rule' seems to me would be a good and necessary addition to any HoI game.

The Allies have quite the fleet advantage, thats something you as Japan have to deal with soon. Other than that this looks to be turning into an interesting war.

After sinking so many Allied ships (it has to be near 200) I was surprised to see that even with the Brits down to 50 ships total (including TPs & LCs) that the Axis would still be over a hundred down. Just goes to show how OP'd the Allied Navy is when the UK is not blasted and has the normal losses.

I was surprised to see overall the two sides are somewhat even and also that my Japan has more MP than the SU but then I remembered they have a massive amount of troops in the field, far, far more than I have, then the light went quickly out.:)

Do you by any chance intend to assist Germany by hitting the Soveits from the rear once Germany draws all their attention? It could be the killing blow.

Good timing...I'm trying to decide now. With Romania's near 100 brigades (last look) a non-factor in this game so far, I do need to do something. I'm leaning towards just enough aggression to take away the U.S.' island bases to limit their sub-reach even further.
What I'm pondering now is whether or not to go for Mongolia and Communist China (I do have them both to defeat) and then "play defense on the Soviet border" while I bring a very good Army directly into the fight on the German/Soviet border and maybe put a couple of Corps to help the Italians with the British Marines in the Med. Since the UK fleet is virtually no threat, I might be able to do this but unfortunately the U.S. has plenty of ships, planes and men to thwart this idea, possibly even wreck both sides of the plan.
What do you think? Make the long trek boring across Siberia or add some serious weight to the German-lines? The former is safe with the latter a tad risky because of the Americans.

Also, I could forget the Pacific entirely and just bring most of my forces to the Soviet East and then deal what whatever after?

Btw, India is a mess. It has taken me forever to paint the nation and I am still not done and now have partisans popping-up. I really wish they had thought of something else for this part of the game. India was more occupied by WWII than anything and my not being able to set India as a puppet is a serious drag on the game. <imo> It takes forever to move anywhere and it is so large it's rather crazy to deal with after driving the Brits out. Certainly all work and no fun for me anyway.
 

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One thing does annoy me in this game; My CVs never sink anything but subs. I'm glad for that because the Brits have no more atm but do you guys see your CVs ever taking out surface ships?
CVs rarely sink other ships that early in the war, but they do enough ORG damage to drive them away for repairs, or soften them up for your other ships to get the easy kills. For the first couple of years, your BBs and BCs are the heavy hitters, but the CVs start outdoing them by '43-44, once your aircraft techs and NAV doctrines improve. By the end of the war, they're lethal.

In many games, I see GER completely fail to take Norway, because they dump dozens of divisions into the Narvik area, and then can't supply all of that through the tiny port and the horrendous infrastructure in the central mountains, in order to take the capital overland. In at least 3 games, the German AI ended up stripping the Soviet border of almost everything (down to ONE lone division in one game) in order to send more and more stuff to starve in Norway. At that point, the game is trashed, because GER will launch Barbarossa on schedule despite not having an army in place, and the Soviets will have an unobstructed path straight to Berlin.
 
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If you take the american islands and india and southeast asia are secure you dont need a land army to stop the americans, keep fleets at the ready and you can stop an invasion before it happens. Remember that island garrisons are delaying units at best, no definitive protection. So just rely on the fleet.

That way the army can hit the su in the rear. Take vladiwostok and maybe march to the rivers or the baikal lake, then dig in? If that doesnt draw rnough soviet attention you could attempt an invasion through the black sea, that eill get their sttention.
 

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For the first couple of years, your BBs and BCs are the heavy hitters, but the CVs start outdoing them by '43-44, once your aircraft techs and NAV doctrines improve. By the end of the war, they're lethal.

How do you see the A.I. CV damage to your own ships? To me that is another aspect because it "seems" the A.I. CVs do a shade more damage than mine. I have no facts to back that up, again, it just seems i.e. playing as the USA vs the Japanese Fleets, early on, it's a gunfight that I usually fare a little worse, even when I've researched appropriately.
 

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That way the army can hit the su in the rear. Take vladiwostok and maybe march to the rivers or the baikal lake, then dig in? If that doesnt draw rnough soviet attention you could attempt an invasion through the black sea, that will get their attention.

I do have a solid defense, so I think I will go that route. The Med idea sounds much too iffy.
 

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How do you see the A.I. CV damage to your own ships? To me that is another aspect because it "seems" the A.I. CVs do a shade more damage than mine. I have no facts to back that up, again, it just seems i.e. playing as the USA vs the Japanese Fleets, early on, it's a gunfight that I usually fare a little worse, even when I've researched appropriately.

Japan gets events that boost the efficiency of her naval aviation when war breaks out. Their equivalent of Destiny, just for the navy and naval bombers and the like.
 

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Japan gets events that boost the efficiency of her naval aviation when war breaks out. Their equivalent of Destiny, just for the navy and naval bombers and the like.
Ah...that explains it; didn't think about the Tora Tora Tora Event. Thanks
 

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I suspect the Soviet Union, South Africa, Canada, and US have many old ships in those numbers.. If you could help the Italians by eliminating the British and French fleets, I think things would be more manageable.
 

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...If you could help the Italians by eliminating the British and French fleets, I think things would be more manageable.

Done.:)

I'm backing up and making an AAR. I really didn't think this game was going to be anything special but it is to me anyway. When I looked at my current date of November 1941 and then reflected on all that has happened and I've not yet reached the actual start date of the greater war...well...hopefully you guys will follow along with me.

I know, I should have listened to you guys in the 1st place but as the saying goes; "I'm stubborn as a Missouri Mule". Btw, the small town where I live was world famous for providing mules to not only the American army but also the Brits and others. The numbers of Horses and Mules used for transport in the Great-War is hard for us to fathom today but I'm sure you guys have seen the countless pictures taken during the war showing not only dead men but dead animals strewn all over the place.

In the next week or so I'll post the first installment of "Early Rising Sun" in the AAR thread.:D
 

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My home town is very near to the base of one of the US' cavalry divisions (its the only true cavalry formation still in existence in the US army) - they were present on D-day lol. Good ol' animal transport :D
 

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Was that addressed to me? I don't see city/state listed in your profile. Are you talking about 1st Cav?
 

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Nice AAR and interesting game, I take a seat and watch it :)

Afaik the Bessarabia annexation is a part of the molotov-rib. event chain, so It'll not occur. Without direct intervention Romania will remain neutral or join allies if near enough.
You did a great work against UK fleet, 50 ships left is almost nothing :)

I think your main goal now is helping Germany in SU while holding US in pacific.
 

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Nice AAR and interesting game, I take a seat and watch it :)

Afaik the Bessarabia annexation is a part of the molotov-rib. event chain, so It'll not occur. Without direct intervention Romania will remain neutral or join allies if near enough.
You did a great work against UK fleet, 50 ships left is almost nothing :)

I think your main goal now is helping Germany in SU while holding US in pacific.

Glad you're aboard. Btw, I put the first post up today and more will soon follow.

As far as your last comment...never-:)mind...you'll read.