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I fired her from her Spymaster position (still has 100+ opinion anyway) and she soon starts plotting to replace my next Spymaster, and instantly get 3 of my direct Vassals and about 10 others backing her.

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Just because she's no longer a spymaster doesn't mean she isn't going to try to kill all the children you had from the previous marriage. And if she lives longer than your current character, she'll keep causing trouble for the heir once you play him. She wants her kids to inherit the throne and if that isn't acceptable the only way to really stop her for good is to throw her in prison and execute her.

Alternatively you could just accept it, let her kill your heir and hope she produces one that's a s good as that. You could even let her educate the kid and with some luck the new heir could become even better than the old one.
 

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Alternatively you could just accept it, let her kill your heir and hope she produces one that's a s good as that. You could even let her educate the kid and with some luck the new heir could become even better than the old one.
I think I will do that, partly for RP purposes. Her children are pretty badass too but my original heir is slightly better. Oh well.
 

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Another advantage of letting her get away with it is that if she outlives you she can be spymaster for her children as well, so you turn a potential major threat into a protector.
 
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Question: Why did she kill my brother? Is it because I was my brother's heir?

Is she going to kill other members of my house?

Oh and my Spymaster wife keeps uncovering Plots from my other trusted advisors including my Marshall and my Treasurer. Needless to say I did nothing about those. Is she moving to kill them too?

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Unless she is homosexual, she will definitely cheat on you. You may have to accept the fact that her children, even though they share your dynasty, are not really yours.

Let's face it, in CK2 there is no such thing as a faithful wife.
 
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Unless she is homosexual, she will definitely cheat on you. You may have to accept the fact that her children, even though they share your dynasty, are not really yours.

Let's face it, in CK2 there is no such thing as a faithful wife.
I checked the save file. They're all mine. All six of them including a set of boy/girl twins. :p

I don't have that notorious Seduction DLC, that's probably why.
 
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A 30 intrigue Yandere spymaster doin thangs fer your own good. Hilarious. :)
 

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Tbh her offing your duke brother probably saved you some trouble down the road when your heir inherits and your brother decides he would make a way better king and plots his overthrow.
 
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High intrigue spouses tend to plot to make sure their children get as powerful as possible (but some times the AI just does weird random stuff). So your brother died because then you get the duchy and in the long run your children.

And as Mad King James said, just because things are fine and dandy between you and your brother, at some point you'll be gone, and your son mi8ght have a jealous uncle or cousin to deal with. So less trouble later.
 

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But then otoh this game isn't about individuals. It's about creating a lasting DYNASTY. The playable character is just one actor in a long line, your uncle might be more important than YOU to create a succesful dynasty... Welcome to the game of "make your dna rule"...
 

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If she were my wife I wouldn't marry to her but keep sending her to other foreigners court (by marriage) and kill my every strong opponent and then call her again and continue the process until one of us dies.
 

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I love this thread, thank you, random people, for deciding to raise it from the dead.
 
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If she were my wife I wouldn't marry to her but keep sending her to other foreigners court (by marriage) and kill my every strong opponent and then call her again and continue the process until one of us dies.

I'm trying to work this comment out..."If she were my wife I wouldn't marry her"...? er...anyway:

So you would divorce her and keep her in your court? I've never divorced someone in CK2, is it easy? I'll assume it is...

OK, so now she's a courtier and I send her off to a foreigners court (by way of marriage), how do I then ask her to kill my every strong opponent? I'll assume it's easy again...

I can then invite her back to my court...and she'll be happy to come back?
 

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I'm trying to work this comment out..."If she were my wife I wouldn't marry her"...? er...anyway:

So you would divorce her and keep her in your court? I've never divorced someone in CK2, is it easy? I'll assume it is...

OK, so now she's a courtier and I send her off to a foreigners court (by way of marriage), how do I then ask her to kill my every strong opponent? I'll assume it's easy again...

I can then invite her back to my court...and she'll be happy to come back?
yes
 

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I'm trying to work this comment out..."If she were my wife I wouldn't marry her"...? er...anyway:

So you would divorce her and keep her in your court? I've never divorced someone in CK2, is it easy? I'll assume it is...

OK, so now she's a courtier and I send her off to a foreigners court (by way of marriage), how do I then ask her to kill my every strong opponent? I'll assume it's easy again...

I can then invite her back to my court...and she'll be happy to come back?

The difficulty of divorce depends on the religion. Catholics need the pope's blessing which means you will very rarely be able to do it, unless you set up an anti-pope (which requires you to be at least a king) or have the pope as your vassal (which requires you to be an emperor). For other religions it tends to be a simple matter of having to give her money.

Divorce tends to upset women though, so I wouldn't count on being able to recall her or even get her in on my plots.

Whether she'll want to help out with those also depends on her traits. The most important one is whether she is Deceitful (-25 honor, which is very good) or Honest (+25 honor, which is very bad). Arbitrary, Cruel, Envious, Greedy, and Paranoid also help (+10 honor) while Charitable, Just, Kind, and Trusting are harmful (-10 honor).