Still, the ERE's title was being contested, and you can-t have two Romes on the map.
Mutimir, Duke of "Rascia" - incorrect title
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Yes, because the duchy of Rashka is obviously more identifiable to players and was made that way for that reason.
Must the idiotic Byzantine Empire name debate be shoehorned into every topic?
Eeeh... If I would be Byzantophile I would say 'Change every name to historical form!'
But I say the opposide.
That is completely a different case; the Byzantine Empire is a standardized term both colloquially and in professional literature for the Eastern Roman Empire; there is even a special branch of the humanities called Byzantology (or more correctly according to some Byzantinology). My point, although not excluding, does not fold down to the argument of actual historicity of contemporary naming; if such were the case we would have problems of similar stature with a whole range of countries across the universe; though not being in this game, e.g. with the realms of the Ancient Near East, including even the Persian Empire. However, those are terms that have been for whatever reason accepted to depict a specific political term.
There is no such acceptance in the place of the Early Middle Ages Serbia, where using the term "Rascia" for it equals = a failing grade for not paying attention to literature (and potentially written sources). For the sake of comparison, that might be paramount to (with a bit of overestimation for argument's purpose) stating that in the Greco-Persian Wars, the Greeks fought against the Sassanid Empire (Greco-Sassanid Wars?). :unsure: Or maybe it were the Greco-Hellenistic wars, with the Greeks fighting off Seleucid hordes at the Battle of Thermopylae?
It is simply a non-historical error - dissimilar from the Byzantine case...
In what sense is it easier to the player that Mutimir is a Rascian and not Serbian Duke?
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I posted about a similar issue with the "Duke of Latium" which is a patently ridiculous title nobody ever used ever in the history of the world. The title was "Duke of Rome" when Rome had a secular ducal ruler. If you google "duke of latium" you will ONLY ever find references from CK2.
Basically Paradox doesn't care and things like this don't get fixed. So don't worry about it.
Basically Paradox doesn't care and things like this don't get fixed. So don't worry about it.
I'm sorry, but what are precisely saying - that "Rashka" is far more commonly notable than "Serbia" (the latter of which still being a European country today)? I think anyone could easily contest that.
The Byzantine Empire debate has little to do with this issue.
Yes it must. The Byzantine Empire is the most important country in this time period. The game should have been called 'Byzantine Emperors' not 'Crusader Kings'.
You forget that EU should be Byzantium Universalis and Victoria Byzantium Rises Again....
To be perfectly frank, the game should have been called "Karlings: They are everywhere special edition"
I'm sorry, but what is this supposed to mean? Who is talking about titular titles?
It's a thread I started and continued where it left off, rather than starting an identical one all over again.
Regardless, you still necroed a thread to reply to someone who posted a little under a year ago.
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Which is demeaning and redundant as all hell when "Eastern Roman Empire" is more accurate.
I believe someone suggested giving him a titular "Prince of Serbia" to override his duchy title?
However, unless you changed his duchy to be "Serbia", and localised 'Duke' as 'Prince' in a similar way to 'Petty King' for the independent Saxon/Irish/Welsh, how should it be done in game?
I would presume he shows as "Duke of Rascia" as they're trying to distinguish between Rascia and "the Kingdom of Serbia". If there's no real difference, then suggest it's changed in the bug report thingy. It should be quick and simple, since it's just a naming issue, but of course they'll want evidence for it.
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