Muslim Mod?

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Is there any Muslim Mod where I can play as Muslim country?

 

[unmerged(21937)]

That's easy: Edit the appropriate .eug file for the scenario where you want to play a muslim. Find out the tag of moslem country you want to play, for example from the Tag list that's stickied around here. Add the tag you want into the .eug file similiarly like the others are. Easiest is to take a copy / paste from the first tag that comes up and just change the TAG (from ENGL to ZIRI for example). The other info is just cosmetic stuff and doesn't need changing.

This allows you to play Pagans, Republics and Bishops too. Though I guess nobody guarantees they will work properly in all matters and you won't get any help from the Bug-forum.

 

[Jayavarman]

So has anybody succeeded in playing a "non-playable" country for a long period of time?

 

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I think there's nobody have really succeed because you can't create or grant title.
Only by changing the other religion with Orthodox you can really play non-playable country.
But the problem is... now Catholics are your friends
If we can create event that give province to other country, we can emulate "enemy religion".

 

[Patricius]

I ran an empire with a 300 province demense so it is possible.

 

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I ran an empire with a 300 province demense so it is possible.

Yeah, you can.
But you get 0% efficiency, right?
How often you have rebellion in your province because of that kind of efficiency?
But you can use some trick to avoid that kind of efficiency.
Use your marshal instead of your ruler when siege enemy province.
And you'll get a sheikdom after the siege.
But that trick only works for enemy religion.
And Jewish country will receive greatest benefit from this trick

 

[NeilJT]

idea:

Could somebody release a mod whereby (for instance) religions are switched about -

for instance:

Muslim ==> Catholic
Jewish ==> Orthodox
Catholic ==> Muslim
Orthodox ==> Jewish

Then one would be able to play as the muslim nations, with all the advantages of being able to grant titles, although one would have catholic titles, and the catholic colour scheme... [at least until moddir is supported...]

 

[Patricius]

Certain generic events could fairly be disabled for Moslem states - if that is possible - givrn that they cannot release vassals. 300 provinces was relatively easy pre-1.03. Now it is harder, but only in the sense of being fiddly and intensely annoying - six armies of 1500 each can cope though. Underage rulers are useful when vassals cannot be released. Every conquest can mean a new vassal, though that does little for efficiency. Insteading setting personal goals for a smallish domain like taking particular cities seems to work.

 

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i've been working on such an idea. I don't think jews --> orthodox is a good idea. orthodox would be better served as a way to play pagan mongols.

 

[unmerged(14905)]

Already tried to make a mod like this.

Women for all religion but islam can be appointed as a ruler. This ruins the mod gameplay: can be made a set of events to replace a female ruler with a male one, but those events cant fire as soon as a women keep power.

 

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Then one would be able to play as the muslim nations, with all the advantages of being able to grant titles, although one would have catholic titles, and the catholic colour scheme... [at least until moddir is supported...]

It's easy to edit title and graphic but the problem is there will be piety penalty for Muslim. Crusade event is hardcoded, right? And Muslim will be Papal Controller :rofl:

 

[Tunch Khan]

I have no idea why Moslems cannot create and grant titles.. while in history they did. And why can't moslem women rule, while there have been occasions of moslem woman rulers, like the queen of Egypt. (no, i'm not talking about Cleopatra, thank you.)

 

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Only in special condition a woman can rule in Islamic Kingdom.
Ruler in Islamic Kingdom also have position as religion leader who must be a man.
I think there's written in Alquran.

 

[Tunch Khan]

Only in special condition a woman can rule in Islamic Kingdom.
Ruler in Islamic Kingdom also have position as religion leader who must be a man.
I think there's written in Alquran.

Rulers of moslem states had no religious position at all during the crusades. It was only after 1517 that the Ottoman Sultan gained the title of Caliph. Before that the rulers were only noble soldiers. Paradox made another mistake in translating the small Arab counties as "Sheikhdoms" which is not correct especially in Levant.
By 1066 the Sunni Caliph in Bagdad and the Shiite Caliph in Cairo were only symbolic religious institutions at the hands of their controllers with no military power or authority other than their castrated Harem guards.

 

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I have tried to make Muslim mod by changing the religion :
Catholic -> Moslem
Orthodox -> Jewish
Moslem -> Orthodox
Jewish -> Catholic

The problem is the titles name and Pope.
When Pope died then CTD.
I thinks it's related to Papal Controller or Pope special rule.

Any idea how to avoid this CTD?

 

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its possible to avoid not putting the pope in the game, simply.

IE, give the PAPA tag and tier to the REBE one, and give to the undead REBE ruler the control of the papacy.
Then simulate the Papal State with another free tag.

 

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It seems we can't play CK without Catholics.
I tried to give Papal States another tag but it still crashed.

 

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It seems we can't play CK without Catholics.
I tried to give Papal States another tag but it still crashed.

I have done this many times.
Just give to the PAPA tag to the same ruler of REBE (id = -3).

 

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What do you mean give PAPA tag to rebel?
I have tried using LOMB tag for Papal States and give papacy control to id = -3 and it still crashed if there is no Catholic country.
Maybe wrong type of character? What's the type of rebel leader?
So I change the religion like NeilJT has suggest.
I give papacy control to id = 0 and it works.
The result is muslim mod that can download from my website (see my sig).

 

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Give PAPA (in titles.inc) to the same ruler of REBE, type 10 (maybe 12) id -3.
Its better if you insert the character defintion of the REBE ruler direcly in you scenario.