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LucasII

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I know, i know - You can play VicII with the music you like in the background, so no need to complain about the music. And I won't. Thats not what this thread is about. It's about this mighty sentiment that apprehends me, when ever i hear this timid but hopefull melody, that accompanied my struggle to unite the germans in the Marchrevolution - it caries within that glimps of hope, this frail but brave desire for a new and better society, and makes its failure only more tragic... This careful and delicate string quartet would still have to wait, till it would become the pompous anthem of an united republican Germany. It is to this day the sound of my all time favourite VicI-moment and memory:


[video=youtube;FA3tHoLBRA4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FA3tHoLBRA4[/video]


So my only request, or rather, my ardent plea to you, dear Paradox, is just one humble favour: Bring back the pompous Odes to royalty, the iron-rumbling symphonies of steam-engines, the drumming boots of victorious Armies. Give me back the sounds of progress, adventure, hope and revolutions... Thank you.

most humble

Lucas II
 

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I'd like to see the music progress from Beethoven, Schumann, Schubert to Brahms and then to Berlioz, Liszt and Wagner and ending with Richard Strauss and Elgar, Holst, Britten and Vaughan Williams.
 

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I'd like to see the music progress from Beethoven, Schumann, Schubert to Brahms and then to Berlioz, Liszt and Wagner and ending with Richard Strauss and Elgar, Holst, Britten and Vaughan Williams.

I would rather the soundtrack not end before we get to composers such George Gershwin, Richard Rodgers and Darius Milhaud; let us not forget VicII ends well into the age of Jazz.
 

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Oh man, a chronological progression of music in Vicky 2 would be so, so awesome. Would it be all that difficult to mod this in? I don't have much experience with modding except some fiddling around with reworking the much-hated fanciful and somewhat nonsensical "Anarcho-Liberal" ideology, party, and rebel tendency.

As for the OP, this is very unfortunate -- especially as I'm a big fan of Haydn -- but I can't divorce this lovely melody from the lyrics favored during the NSDAP era and the attendant negative connotations. I know, the melody predates the lyrics by nearly 50 years, and even the lyrics in question predate the piece's adoption by the NSDAP, and that the melody is still used as the national anthem of Germany, but I still can't separate this lovely work from what it was distorted into. The music isn't completely ruined for me, but it is tainted to some degree in my subconscious, and that sucks :(
 

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Oh man, a chronological progression of music in Vicky 2 would be so, so awesome. Would it be all that difficult to mod this in? I don't have much experience with modding except some fiddling around with reworking the much-hated fanciful and somewhat nonsensical "Anarcho-Liberal" ideology, party, and rebel tendency.

As for the OP, this is very unfortunate -- especially as I'm a big fan of Haydn -- but I can't divorce this lovely melody from the lyrics favored during the NSDAP era and the attendant negative connotations. I know, the melody predates the lyrics by nearly 50 years, and even the lyrics in question predate the piece's adoption by the NSDAP, and that the melody is still used as the national anthem of Germany, but I still can't separate this lovely work from what it was distorted into. The music isn't completely ruined for me, but it is tainted to some degree in my subconscious, and that sucks :(

That sucks indeed. Its amazing how your perception of this musical piece is the total opposite of mine.
Besides, in the 3rd Reich they used only the first stanza of the "Deutschlandlied" (written by Fallersleben 1841). It was always followed by the political song "Horst Wessel Lied", which became the "second" Nationalanthem. The Horst Wessel Lied its more what i think of, when i think of the National Anthem of Nazi-Germany, for its Lyrics are way more typical for the Regime. The Deutschlandlied is a quite patriote song, but it was born in an ununited Germany bevor the 1848 Revolts. The Nazis needed something else, something more than just romantic patriotism - so they added the Horst Wessel Lied, with its agressive. warmonger Lyrics.
 
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I'd like to see the music progress from Beethoven, Schumann, Schubert to Brahms and then to Berlioz, Liszt and Wagner and ending with Richard Strauss and Elgar, Holst, Britten and Vaughan Williams.
Psh. All the cool people are listening to Offenbach. And Johann Strauss. And Rossini. *GASP* PIATTI! Maybe some Boccherini for me? No, forget that: GRÜTZMACHER! And then...Schoenberg. Ya thats right. I went there.