Muscovy 100 more dev than France in 1480s.

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And here's my Muscovy (with whom I had no interaction).
 

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A.i. France has a tendency to sit there with their thumb up their $%^ and do nothing these days. Not sure what's up with that but it's been a while since I saw them properly boot the English out before 1550 or so...
 

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A.i. France has a tendency to sit there with their thumb up their $%^ and do nothing these days. Not sure what's up with that but it's been a while since I saw them properly boot the English out before 1550 or so...

This. I'm not saying I want the BBB back, but France sitting around doing nothing wastes all that potential. It's even more egregious when the BI fires. They have no one to stop them, but they just sort of laze about.
 

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AI countries know how to declare on inferior opponents now, but still have very little clue on how to expand in to people who are near their strength.

France for example in MP takes ~2 major powers to beat. If it manages to reclaim it's english cores it can easily destroy Aragon, Burgundy, or Castile. An unchecked France quite frequently conquers all of Burgundy down to Holland or all of Iberia.

Russia on the other hand just needs the AI to beat on the vastly inferior Novgorod, then declare on a bunch of horde minors until it gains enough dev to gain the strength to declare on Poland. Poland with Lithuania eaten will get to ~600 dev probably, but by then Russia is moving down through the steppes and getting to 1k.

The way the AI is scripted to rarely ever try to take difficult wars (seemingly to defend the player) means that countries that could/should go out of control in Europe rarely do.
 

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If the Maine event don't fire, France and England can be at peace for a long time.
A small fix would be to let the event not go away as early as 1450 and let it be available for another 5 years ?

Or maybe the AI should be a little less careful to declare war when that includes taking back cores ?

Paradox has been very good to set up the situation so noone will always be overrunned. But instead it leads to a stalemate since they are all so balanced and are not too keen to go to war anymore.
 

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Jesus. What the hell is Poland doing?

Mostly being an alliance slave in my wars against Spain, the Ottomans and random Italian states. Poland did, however, war against Muscovy quite a bit.

I'm more impressed by the OPM Prussia.

Lubeck clearly decided it wants more water.

Prussia is actually junior PU partner under Brandenburg since 20-30 years.
 

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Seems about right. Either Muscovy collapses or reaches nearly 100 more dev than france by 1480.

I let France finish its war with England but it didn't change much.

Well that´s... nasty, but I guess both possible fixes (reducing Muscowy´s development or the development of the stuff it will conquer always) are a bit tricky. Perhaps a balanced approach of nerfing development by 10% both of Muscowy and neighbours would be more sensible - a tiny but plausible nerf. Buffing Lithuania and Sweden is not a good idea IMO.
 

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Well that´s... nasty, but I guess both possible fixes (reducing Muscowy´s development or the development of the stuff it will conquer always) are a bit tricky. Perhaps a balanced approach of nerfing development by 10% both of Muscowy and neighbours would be more sensible - a tiny but plausible nerf. Buffing Lithuania and Sweden is not a good idea IMO.
That's stupid. You can't just nerf Russia because you don't like that a great power exists there now rather than being Swedish bait.
 

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That's stupid. You can't just nerf Russia because you don't like that a great power exists there now rather than being Swedish bait.

You could nerf them because they have ridiculous development and are way more powerful than they should be, though.

I get that you're in love with Russia and all but Muscovy should not be eclipsing France when it historically was still trying to shake off the hordes. It's just bad for gameplay and makes playing in the region especially lame now.
 
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PI has to reevaluate the development system and redo the numbers. Whenever they add more provinces it disrupts its relation to those of other countries.

First and foremost, development should not be instant, it should take a year per development level. You can literally double a cities development or turn a rural backwater province into a booming metropolis overnight.

Second, by adding some sort of demographic/population system, you can cap province development realistically as cities don't appear in places where no one lives (unless you are 21st century China).

Third, adding a resource stockpile system where wood among other resources are needed to maintain, expand, and keep happy cities would help both the player and AI to prevent overexpanding to avoid economic collapses and setbacks.
 

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A.I has actually been giving me a hard time in my Muscovy game.
Been declared on twice once by Denmark with pu'd, Norway & Sweden
And again by Poland, Lithuania,Bohemia

I've screwed up the diplo and everyone hates me but it's kind of shocking to actually be attacked :p