Multiple Holy Wars for the same land - bug or something else?

[tomek.tatar]

Hello, friends, I hope this is the right place I bring my problem - if not, please be forgiving, as it is my first post on this forum.

Yesterday I started a new campaign in CKII as the leader of house de Barcelona and after few years of game-play I decided to help my fellow in faith to defend his land from Muslim sheik, who started the Holy War. All would be OK, but then I noticed that 2 other sheiks started 2 new holy wars against him (for the same territory) and I was neutral for them. To my horror, one of their armies started besieging a county just after I reconquered it and my army was standing there and done nothing! I couldn't join the other holly wars (he had to face three in the same time) I could only join the first one. We were no allies, only brothers in faith...

In my opinion this should be changed as soon as possible, because its not realistic and can completely spoil the game. I think that it should be possible to wage only one holy war for the same territory at the same time - there should be the same mechanism as during crusades, don't You think?

I impatiently look forward for any replies.

 

[unmerged(519337)]

I encountered this in my last game. I (the King of Nubia), the King of Abyssinia, a random sheikh in the Rassid Emirate, and his liege the Emir all declared Holy War for Harer. So annoying.

 

[Jeltz]

I think a better fix would be to allow one to join wars in more situations. And also in this case make all who holy war for the same area hostile to your armies. I do not really see any problem with multiple holy wars for the same area, just the problem of you not being able to join all the wars.

 

[Hackworthy]

I think a better fix would be to allow one to join wars in more situations. And also in this case make all who holy war for the same area hostile to your armies. I do not really see any problem with multiple holy wars for the same area, just the problem of you not being able to join all the wars.

That would only make sense if the different holy wars are being fought for different faiths. If two Catholic rulers declare holy war for something it does make sense for them to divide it rather than fight each other.

 

[Gqarz]

did you try offering to join the war on your friend's side? Click on his portrait, bring up his diplomacy, at the bottom there should be and option to "offer join war".

 

[tomek.tatar]

did you try offering to join the war on your friend's side? Click on his portrait, bring up his diplomacy, at the bottom there should be and option to "offer join war".

Yes, as I said before, I joined war this way, the first war of three. Later there was no option to do this again - probably because I've already joined his war - and this is why I wonder if all this thing is bugged. Do You think guys that we can see some response from devs here? ;-)

 

[Broaz]

Maybe you could join the first war because you are neighbouring the offender, but cannot join the other ones because the other ennemies are far away from your demesne. I think (not sure) there is a such a rule to avoid cascade alliances.

 

[Talq]

Nah, this is why once a nation is committed to defend a holy war, you can expect they won't oppose yours.

The net result is a bit illogical. 'We fight to defend our brothers in faith!...eh, who are you?" We're from the shiekdom of lleida' "Oh, you're ok, but if you were the hammadid emirate..."

 

[tomek.tatar]

Nah, this is why once a nation is committed to defend a holy war, you can expect they won't oppose yours.

The net result is a bit illogical. 'We fight to defend our brothers in faith!...eh, who are you?" We're from the shiekdom of lleida' "Oh, you're ok, but if you were the hammadid emirate..."

Yeah, this looks for me silly too. As I said before, the best way to solve it is to allow one holy war for one territory in the same time (just as in case of crusades). Dear Devs, please patch it as soon as possible!

 

[Kyle Lionheart]

Nah, multiple wars for the same land makes sense. If both the the sheikh of Somewhere and the Emir of Anywhere want the county of Nowhere, they might very well use the same excuse. Of course, they would then fight among themselves in addition to their Catholic target and allies.

The part that's silly is that you, as the ally, can only help against one of them. You should be hostile to everyone who's attacking for the same reason, or at the very least have the option of joining all wars instead of only being limited to the first

 

[Red John]

Why not make it like independence wars? If two nations declare on one piece of land, everyone should be hostile to each other.

 

[smikis]

I think a better fix would be to allow one to join wars in more situations. And also in this case make all who holy war for the same area hostile to your armies. I do not really see any problem with multiple holy wars for the same area, just the problem of you not being able to join all the wars.

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