Multiple Empires Sharing Single Planets At Once?

[Sinister2202]

this is how a federation capital should be imo.

 

[SIEGE-109]

I support shared planets, but not as a starting condition.

 

[shiro the bushi]

maybe it could be like futuramas government where theres a planetarty government that deals with major things like universal expansion but induvidual states (countries) can still do their own thing. Think of the HRE from Eu, not completely accurate but the one everyone here would get

 

[aruon]

This is a must! Otherwise, how can the 40k mod portray Cadia?!

for the uninitiated (AKA me) what's Cadia?

 

[aitaituo]

for the uninitiated (AKA me) what's Cadia?

This is Cadia, you silly fool! Cadia! Right on the doorway of Chaos! Right in the heart of everything! The seepage of evil is so great, I have a hundred active cults to subdue every month! This place breeds recidivists like a pond breeds scum. This is Cadia! This is the Gate of the Eye! This is where the bloody work of the Inquisition is done!

 

[KaiserRichter]

for the uninitiated (AKA me) what's Cadia?

Heresy. Heresy everywhere.

 

[zukodark]

If not in the base game, something like this could be added later in a DLC. Actually, that seems pretty likely, since Eu4's estates were added later, and I see less flavor that could be added by DLC in Stellaris than in other Paradox games. I think it would be a little too optimistic to expect this in the base game, since they should focus more on the broader galaxy than individual planets (while absolutely not ignoring them).

 

[aruon]

This is Cadia, you silly fool! Cadia! Right on the doorway of Chaos! Right in the heart of everything! The seepage of evil is so great, I have a hundred active cults to subdue every month! This place breeds recidivists like a pond breeds scum. This is Cadia! This is the Gate of the Eye! This is where the bloody work of the Inquisition is done!

Heresy. Heresy everywhere.

lololololol

 

[Wulfburk]

AND currently after the 13TH Black Crusade Chaos has gained quite a foothold in Cadia which means its split up between the Imperium and Chaos.

 

[shiro the bushi]

AND currently after the 13TH Black Crusade Chaos has gained quite a foothold in Cadia which means its split up between the Imperium and Chaos.

these are dark times for the true and faithful

 

[viola]

By all means the Human nations of Earth should be divided in game.

So while those divided fools fight among themselves and pointlessly waste their resources over petty squabbles my glorious Fungi empire from the planet Yuggoth will have an easy time annihilating the silly apes, as it should be after all.

 

[FrostPegasus]

Don't divide Earth. Sure, use it as a narrative device, but there shouldn't be in-game events or mechanics reflecting it. It's a game about the galaxy at large, not the squabbling nations of a backwater planet that might not develop into much.

Furthermore, it's 200 years in the future, and people crying of how "completely unrealistic" it is that all of Earth has united under some form of government really misunderstand time. A LOT can happen in 200 years. How much has changed since the Battle of Waterloo?

And even so, no one is saying that this 'unified' government of Earth has total control over the entire planet and nations don't exist anymore. Is it really so hard to imagine that the United Nations, due to some crisis or whatever, has its powers increased to the extent that it becomes a confederation of all the world's nations? They'd all still exist, they'd all still have their various laws and national armies, but there'd be an overarching government that basically did as little as it had to, but would strengthen as humanity spread outwards. If anything this would be best reflected in the humans' government type and not factions.

 

[Atlantians]

Spoiler

Don't divide Earth. Sure, use it as a narrative device, but there shouldn't be in-game events or mechanics reflecting it. It's a game about the galaxy at large, not the squabbling nations of a backwater planet that might not develop into much.

Furthermore, it's 200 years in the future, and people crying of how "completely unrealistic" it is that all of Earth has united under some form of government really misunderstand time. A LOT can happen in 200 years. How much has changed since the Battle of Waterloo?

And even so, no one is saying that this 'unified' government of Earth has total control over the entire planet and nations don't exist anymore. Is it really so hard to imagine that the United Nations, due to some crisis or whatever, has its powers increased to the extent that it becomes a confederation of all the world's nations? They'd all still exist, they'd all still have their various laws and national armies, but there'd be an overarching government that basically did as little as it had to, but would strengthen as humanity spread outwards. If anything this would be best reflected in the humans' government type and not factions.

This would be feasible if NATO merged with the UN.

 

[XRW]

Simple 200 years from now the world economy crashes and the banks buy all the countries. No country really has a choice. Media is used to keep people pacifistic and supportive of the puppet government.

 

[aitaituo]

Simple 200 years from now the world economy crashes and the banks buy all the countries. No country really has a choice. Media is used to keep people pacifistic and supportive of the puppet government.

That is the plot of the 1970's, but without the backroom intrigue.

 

[Fratricide]

Simple 200 years from now the world economy crashes and the banks buy all the countries. No country really has a choice. Media is used to keep people pacifistic and supportive of the puppet government.

I mean, the entire global financial sector accounts for what? 20% of global GDP? So even if you could get them all to coordinate they could equal the GDP of the United States.

Actually, I'm finding disparate numbers. Somewhere between 8% and 20%.

 

[Ingros]

I wonder how the mechanic is for multiple empires in one system

 

[Haldan]

Russia? China? America? Pfft, who says this isn't a CK2 or EU4-based logical applies, and the HRE, Commonwealth, Mongols or France rules the world?
Incoming Karling galaxy!

 

[aruon]

Russia? China? America? Pfft, who says this isn't a CK2 or EU4-based logical applies, and the HRE, Commonwealth, Mongols or France rules the world?
Incoming Karling galaxy!

abbagalactablob!

 

[zukodark]

Don't divide Earth. Sure, use it as a narrative device, but there shouldn't be in-game events or mechanics reflecting it. It's a game about the galaxy at large, not the squabbling nations of a backwater planet that might not develop into much.

Furthermore, it's 200 years in the future, and people crying of how "completely unrealistic" it is that all of Earth has united under some form of government really misunderstand time. A LOT can happen in 200 years. How much has changed since the Battle of Waterloo?

And even so, no one is saying that this 'unified' government of Earth has total control over the entire planet and nations don't exist anymore. Is it really so hard to imagine that the United Nations, due to some crisis or whatever, has its powers increased to the extent that it becomes a confederation of all the world's nations? They'd all still exist, they'd all still have their various laws and national armies, but there'd be an overarching government that basically did as little as it had to, but would strengthen as humanity spread outwards. If anything this would be best reflected in the humans' government type and not factions.

The game takes place in almost two hundred years. A lot could happen here. I don't think one superpower or a more unified united nations is too more unlikely than Russia, China and USA still being the dominant superpowers. It seems pretty likely that Stellaris is not going to have several countries on the starting planets. I hope there will be hypothetical rebel factions, that can become their own empire on a new planet, or after completely taking over the planet they start. While a completely unified Earth seems almost impossible, I think a large dominant entity is possible, and not too unlikely. Also, I think starting planets' population will not only have one etho.

You are not the only one seeing it that way.