Multicoloured Princes of various ethnic backgrounds

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Simply put (well as simply as I can put it); if I, as Prince A, marry a Moorish Princess. will my children be black, white, or in between? Or will I have an African nose pasted onto a European face, resulting in a multicoloured individual? Or is this even possible and therefore not an issue?

 

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I'd assume that a Moorish princess would be Muslima and therefore not "available" for your Christian prince

 

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Then I'd assume conversion for either of the interested parties is impossible?

 

[Calgacus]

Simply put (well as simply as I can put it); if I, as Prince A, marry a Moorish Princess. will my children be black, white, or in between? Or will I have an African nose pasted onto a European face, resulting in a multicoloured individual? Or is this even possible and therefore not an issue?

Eh...Moors aren't black. :rofl:

This is what most Moors look like

The homeland of the Ethiopians (Black People) is below the Sahara.

 

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Eh...Moors aren't black. :rofl:

This is what most Moors look like

The homeland of the Ethiopians (Black People) is below the Sahara.

You should have shown us some babe pictures instead. Just for the sake of the argument that is

 

[Deaghaidh]

Moor came to mean 'black' by shakespere's time. I wonder how that came to be ??? perhaps other north africans are darker skinned, or Nubian mercenaries perhaps?

I'm thinking of Othello of course. Granted that Shakespere probably never saw a real moor, but there must have been some darker skinned people in the mediterranean world.

But, as for the original question, the only way I could see it happening is if you conquer a n african country in a crusade, force-convert the vassals and then marry into them. It seems more likely that after a successfull crusade the territory would more likely be given to different crusaders than to local convert nobles. So i'd say truly interracial marriages are likely impossible.

 

[Calgacus]

Moor came to mean 'black' by shakespere's time. I wonder how that came to be ??? perhaps other north africans are darker skinned, or Nubian mercenaries perhaps?

I'm thinking of Othello of course. Granted that Shakespere probably never saw a real moor, but there must have been some darker skinned people in the mediterranean world.

The Almohad armies had many Ethiopians in their ranks. But I don't think Moor ever meant "Black" as in Negroid. I recall that Shakespeare does use the word "Ethiopian", so he was surely aware of the difference.

 

[Raczynski]

Moor came to mean 'black' by shakespere's time. I wonder how that came to be ??? perhaps other north africans are darker skinned, or Nubian mercenaries perhaps?

I'm thinking of Othello of course. Granted that Shakespere probably never saw a real moor, but there must have been some darker skinned people in the mediterranean world.

Err... Shakespere? Same guy who placed Bohemia near the sea :rofl: ?

 

[Demetrios]

Err... Shakespere? Same guy who placed Bohemia near the sea :rofl: ?

Bohemia reached the sea under Ottokar the Great...

The few sub-Saharan Africans that appeared in Moorish armies obviously caught the imagination of Europeans due to their difference, and thus Moorish came to equal African in many peoples' minds...

 

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Piebald

Well, Feirefiz, from Wolfram von Eschenbach's Parzival, was piebald...

 

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Well, my grandmother, beign quite a simple person, calls "czarny" (black), a person with darker complexion. Say, Gypsie. So maybe it would be lack of knowledge of Negro population which caused Moors to be called black. Just a though, anyway.

 

[Eldin]

And my grandmother calls them 'crni'

Anyway, if I were used to only the regular Europeans, I'd consider Arabs and the people from around there to be 'blackish'.

 

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Moors

Moors are black by definition. When Arab traders visited the sub-saharan regions of Africa they met black people, whom they called Morash (Arabic for black), which is where the name Moors came from.

 

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Moors are black by definition. When Arab traders visited the sub-saharan regions of Africa they met black people, whom they called Morash (Arabic for black), which is where the name Moors came from.

Yes, that may be where the name originally came from, but those certainly weren't the people Europeans were referring to when they said 'Moor'. The people they were talking about were the North Africans, who looked remarkably like today's North Africans.

 

[O CoRVo]

Folks he is not asking the correct use of the word moors...

And i am curious as well

 

[Calgacus]

Moors are black by definition. When Arab traders visited the sub-saharan regions of Africa they met black people, whom they called Morash (Arabic for black), which is where the name Moors came from.

Pure fiction. :rofl: The word "Moor" comes from Latin word "Maurus" - an inhabitant of Mauritania (Morocco and North-Western Algeria).

"Beled es-Sudan" was the Arabic name for Black Africa.

 

[Nikolai II]

I'd assume that a Moorish princess would be Muslima and therefore not "available" for your Christian prince

She could become a Morisco (baptized moor) - possibly even keeping her 'princess' status, but war (or threat of) would likely have to be involved for that?

 

[Amadís de Gaula]

She could become a Morisco (baptized moor) - possibly even keeping her 'princess' status, but war (or threat of) would likely have to be involved for that?

If she comes from the muslim Spain (taifas), she might (or might not) be a blonde with blue eyes girl as the muslim population was ethinically spanish. Abderraman was blonde, BTW.