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Hey y'all

Quick question I couldn't find an exact answer too: Do you lose your MP if they're above over the now 999 point cap when you finish westernizing? I'm about to start the process as Cherokee and have about 2k banked for the westernization process. But if I complete the process with 1500 or so left is that just a waste? Or will I be able to use them to tech up?

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So I just did some experimenting and it looks like when you finish westernizing your points go grey, and as soon as you spend them on something they drop down to 999. But by having 2k points in each when I finished westernizing, I was able to buy one tech in each category and and still have 999 in each. So sounds like having about 1500 in each will benefit you, but anything over that is still wasted...?
 

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So I just did some experimenting and it looks like when you finish westernizing your points go grey, and as soon as you spend them on something they drop down to 999. But by having 2k points in each when I finished westernizing, I was able to buy one tech in each category and and still have 999 in each. So sounds like having about 1500 in each will benefit you, but anything over that is still wasted...?

Pretty much, yes. Why did you stockpile so many monarch points in the first place? Use them on buildings, reducing war exhaustion, reducing inflation, harsh treatments, buildings, tech, ideas, etc. The fact that you're going to Westernize doesn't mean you should stop advancing your tech until you Westernize, especially admin tech which opens up more idea groups. Keep teching efficiently(as in wait for the last moment before cap to maximize tech discounts from neighbors and minimize ahead of time penalties) and put your national focus on admin since Westernization only makes techs cheaper, not ideas, so getting admin tech to 7, 10 or whatever(depending how soon you Westernize) to get new idea groups give you the perfect outlet for excess monarch points.