MoveCoT

[Mad King James]

I've been thinking about MoveCoT and wondering why it wasn't implimented, a few possibilities arose in my mind as to why, one was that what if an event tried to move a nonexistant CoT? Another was the possibility that it scrambled the CoT allocation terribly. Another possibility I thought of was it was just broken, and would be too much work to fix.

But how about this? How about a syntax of the following:

command = { type = movecot where = oldprovince value = newprovince }

If no CoT is in oldprovince, it makes a new CoT in the newprovince. This way if there's no CoT to move, it makes a new one. That is, if it's fixable.

Please? This is one command that would solve so very many problems....

 

[Chengar Qordath]

Agreed.

It would certainly help with some weird things like the Holland and Flanders CoT's being right next to each other. This is especially weird when one considers the fact that the only reason that Amsterdam became a major trade center was because of the decline of Antwerp as a trade center due to damage inflicted on the port facilities due to the dutch revolt. Holland CoT could not exist if Flanders was still a CoT.

 

[kurtbrian]

I think that the Move COT command have been wished for since the beginning of the EU II Beta and since its not in yet, I firmly believe that its very hard to make it work as it should...

 

[Norgesvenn]

One can only hope for a workable solution, but I won't hold my breath.

The idea is good, though.

 

[TheArchduke]

Originally posted by kurtbrian
I think that the Move COT command have been wished for since the beginning of the EU II Beta and since its not in yet, I firmly believe that its very hard to make it work as it should...

Is it? In fact to delete a CoT and to make another you need just to edit the savegame with a few clicks.
I think maybe we can not add any new event text for it and that this is the problem...

 

[artemis667]

The syntax looks right. It's no question that it *should* be in the game, whatever the "don't count on it" men say.
I wonder what we can do to persuade Johan to make this change... if I was female I'd offer to have his child, but that isn't an option so hmm... as it is I have bought every game Paradox have made (that is available in English anyway), and I will buy every game they will make in the future, even if they're crap (fat chance of that, hehehe). But I dunno if that's enough. Still, we can only hope.

 

[Old Joe]

This command definetely looks good, but on matter why it isnt still in game, i think johan just withhold it for some more significant things, like 1.07, or i dont know...

Also i saw in message settings one line - "When a Center of Trade move to a different province", exactly that, so it appears that such command was in mind even since beggining of eu, so why it isnt there? hm even if it for random Cot moving(which necessity for me is too questionable) its still tells that such event command wouldnt be as hard to implement. At least its just only one number need to change by this command!ehh

 

[unmerged(6881)]

Yeah, Move CoT command is very high on every wishlist. It would be great to get it but it is probably impossible. CoT system was designed by a person who is not working on Paradox anymore (or was the system just bought?). It makes any changes very hard.

 

[TheF]

I've been thinking about MoveCoT and wondering why it wasn't implimented, a few possibilities arose in my mind as to why, one was that what if an event tried to move a nonexistant CoT?

A trigger 'ExistCoT' would also catch such a bug.

 

[DPS]

Unless my memory has gotten even worse than I think it has, CoT's could and sometimes did move in EU I. I have no idea why they cannot still do so.

 

[unmerged(2833)]

Originally posted by DPS
Unless my memory has gotten even worse than I think it has, CoT's could and sometimes did move in EU I. I have no idea why they cannot still do so.

Ur memory failed you

 

[PatMaster]

Originally posted by DPS
Unless my memory has gotten even worse than I think it has, CoT's could and sometimes did move in EU I. I have no idea why they cannot still do so.

You're wrong

 

[Owl]

Yes, they don't move and never did. The business can of course move when a new CoT springs up .... which brings me to my real reason for posting. Is there any way to have CoT's close down if their business turnover falls below say 10 ducats for two consecutive years?

 

[artemis667]

Originally posted by Owl
Yes, they don't move and never did. The business can of course move when a new CoT springs up .... which brings me to my real reason for posting. Is there any way to have CoT's close down if their business turnover falls below say 10 ducats for two consecutive years?

At present, there is no 'deleteCoT' command either. So that Zacatecas CoT with a value of 0 is going to hang around forever (hypothetical case). On the other hand, moving CoTs around the place by editing the save game is a very simple task. Some people (like myself) aren't really into the whole 'editing save game' business, but if you want to get rid of obsolete CoTs, that's what you have to do.

 

[Mad King James]

Originally posted by artemis667
At present, there is no 'deleteCoT' command either. So that Zacatecas CoT with a value of 0 is going to hang around forever (hypothetical case). On the other hand, moving CoTs around the place by editing the save game is a very simple task. Some people (like myself) aren't really into the whole 'editing save game' business, but if you want to get rid of obsolete CoTs, that's what you have to do.

You shouldn't have to do that though You should just be able to move by event!

 

[Johan]

Guess what I coded before work this morning?

 

[nelly644]

Originally posted by Johan
Guess what I coded before work this morning?

It's finally in!!!

 

[Sam Vimes]

Originally posted by Johan
Guess what I coded before work this morning?

That's awesome! If ti works the game'll be even better than before! I can't wait for the new patch.

Thanx for all your work Johan

 

[Owen]

Originally posted by Johan
Guess what I coded before work this morning?

Well, to coin a phrase, that's wicked. Thanks Johan.

It's lucky for us all Johan doesn't consider coding EU2 betas to be work...

After all, what do I do before work in the morning? I sleep as long as possible.

Perhaps someone could reopen the massive thread we had begging for it so all the people voting can say thank you?

 

[artemis667]

Originally posted by Johan
Guess what I coded before work this morning?

This rocks.