Mountain wars

[Sporally]

Yeah. The constitutional monarchy of Sikkim in year 2132 and only Bhutan has been annexed. But what the hell should i be doing with some 800k sheepherds including their families Ok, then we have the 200k other types including aristocrats mainly but also generals and soldiers - 200k is again including their families.

And i believe all of you expierenced Vic players can agree on this one - once you've reached the status of an Independent Nation you can't loose it, right?

BTW: Can anyone give me the link for the page where you can find info on how to get the prestige, military and industry points? Thx in advance.

 

[Sleepyhead]

Yeah. The constitutional monarchy of Sikkim in year 2132 and only Bhutan has been annexed. But what the hell should i be doing with some 800k sheepherds including their families Ok, then we have the 200k other types including aristocrats mainly but also generals and soldiers - 200k is again including their families.

Dude, go see a doctor. You may be a maschosist.

And i believe all of you expierenced Vic players can agree on this one - once you've reached the status of an Independent Nation you can't loose it, right?

Not with Sikkim

BTW: Can anyone give me the link for the page where you can find info on how to get the prestige, military and industry points? Thx in advance.

I don't know of such a page, do you mean WikiVicky?

 

[Sporally]

Maschosist... like a native dane with a native danish tongue would know such a word. Might have if only i was better with the danish language we probably have a simular word for the same thing.

I believe the thing you said about Sikkim was just for fun. At first glance it might not be anything for you, but if you take any other Vic player in the world he or she won't have a greater nation called Sikkim - and if he or she does than the person won't keep that record for long

I think it was on the WikiVicky, but i've just visited it but didn't find the page where it was stated. Maybe it was a thread by the Wikimonkey or something

 

[unmerged(36402)]

prestige:
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=215259

industry score:
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=206632

military was done ages ago, cant find the thread without the search option. appox guide, to the best of my memory, is irr 1/20, inf 1, cav 2. I dont remember any more of them than that, and i do know that natives only score 10% of that.

 

[Sleepyhead]

Maschosist... like a native dane with a native danish tongue would know such a word. Might have if only i was better with the danish language we probably have a simular word for the same thing.

I believe the thing you said about Sikkim was just for fun. At first glance it might not be anything for you, but if you take any other Vic player in the world he or she won't have a greater nation called Sikkim - and if he or she does than the person won't keep that record for long

I think it was on the WikiVicky, but i've just visited it but didn't find the page where it was stated. Maybe it was a thread by the Wikimonkey or something

I might've spelled it wrong, always do. People that likes to be beaten and abused basicly.

The Wikimonkey is wise, he has made more than 7000 wise posts.
He might be able to help you.

 

[Sporally]

Coco was fast enough with that one though. I think i have a feeling on the MP, with the exception of cavalry which surpriced me. I've had some problems in finding out why i had 3 MP with two cavalry divisions, but this explains it all. So i guess it would be closer to 1.5 per cavalry division, but thx anyway. Anything though, is the IP. I think that one might take some time to get up to the 50 that i need. I can't afford to run factories (i loose money on them because of the lack of infrastucture) and i need timber for railroads, which i can't buy on the market - neither do i have neighbours with timber and i can't DOW other nations that aren't my neighbour. So i guess i will go for the techs. 24 IP atm, need 26 more - 250 years and i'm ready?

 

[OriginalRafiki]

military was done ages ago, cant find the thread without the search option. appox guide, to the best of my memory, is irr 1/20, inf 1, cav 2. I dont remember any more of them than that, and i do know that natives only score 10% of that.

Here's the best overview I've seen on the subject: http://victoria.nsen.ch/wiki/index.php/Score_and_Ratings_Calculations

(BTW, the search function does work at VickyWiki )

 

[Sleepyhead]

Coco was fast enough with that one though. I think i have a feeling on the MP, with the exception of cavalry which surpriced me. I've had some problems in finding out why i had 3 MP with two cavalry divisions, but this explains it all. So i guess it would be closer to 1.5 per cavalry division, but thx anyway. Anything though, is the IP. I think that one might take some time to get up to the 50 that i need. I can't afford to run factories (i loose money on them because of the lack of infrastucture) and i need timber for railroads, which i can't buy on the market - neither do i have neighbours with timber and i can't DOW other nations that aren't my neighbour. So i guess i will go for the techs. 24 IP atm, need 26 more - 250 years and i'm ready?

Isn't Awadh timber producing? It'll be hard to get the right amount if industrial points since you have virtually no national culture what so ever
If you want to DOW sell one of your core provinces and then DOW.

 

[Sporally]

Whereever Awadh was from the beginning of the game i can tell you it isn't anylonger. I only have Russia (which just took Tibet, i might be next ), British India and Nepal as my neighbours. I simply have to do it this way and then i might get the last few IPs from building a factory, put workers into it and shut it down afterwards as my infrastucture will give me a loss when building factories - that is what to expect.

Which factory/factories do you expect to be the easier money maker for a nation with 1 level 0 and 1 level 1 railroad?

EDIT: Thx for the link Rafiki - that was the one i was referring to.

 

[Sleepyhead]

Whereever Awadh was from the beginning of the game i can tell you it isn't anylonger. I only have Russia (which just took Tibet, i might be next ), British India and Nepal as my neighbours. I simply have to do it this way and then i might get the last few IPs from building a factory, put workers into it and shut it down afterwards as my infrastucture will give me a loss when building factories - that is what to expect.

Which factory/factories do you expect to be the easier money maker for a nation with 1 level 0 and 1 level 1 railroad?

EDIT: Thx for the link Rafiki - that was the one i was referring to.

I would suggest fabric, you must have some wool right? Whatever you chose you won't make a profit though. It would be wise to make the big bear your ally.

 

[Sporally]

Need money, so unless the attack me i think i will survive without an alliance (yes, call me a cheater, but i load whenever the game doesn't go the way i hoped ). I have had a fabric factory once and i couldn't make a profit, but ok, if i raise some money and get the industrial inventions i only need 10 IPs more, which i should be able to get from building a factory and then shutting it down.

EDIT: I just had a 'Private railroad company' event triggering, but i didn't get the railroad upgrade. Have you ever heard of problems with that event?

 

[Sleepyhead]

Need money, so unless the attack me i think i will survive without an alliance (yes, call me a cheater, but i load whenever the game doesn't go the way i hoped ). I have had a fabric factory once and i couldn't make a profit, but ok, if i raise some money and get the industrial inventions i only need 10 IPs more, which i should be able to get from building a factory and then shutting it down.

EDIT: I just had a 'Private railroad company' event triggering, but i didn't get the railroad upgrade. Have you ever heard of problems with that event?

Yes it can only expand the railroad to your highest tech lvl, which if I'm not mistaken is none for Sikkim.
What year are you in?

 

[oxmonsta]

EDIT: I just had a 'Private railroad company' event triggering, but i didn't get the railroad upgrade. Have you ever heard of problems with that event?

Yes, I have noticed in my games that the command that gives a railroad is bugged and never works - regardless of whether you have the required tech for the level of railway or not. Just open the save game and edit the railway in.

 

[Sporally]

Hum, i see the point that it isn't cheating, but other the other hand the comp. doesn't recieve the advantage neither. Don't know if i should do it or not.

@ Sleepyhead
I'm in year 2143 or something like that and have the Early railroad, and though my starting province has level 1 railroad i'm pretty sure it was triggered for my second province, which doesn't have any railroads.

 

[Strategist]

I have seen the private RR even work and not work, it seems quite random if it works

In my last (and current) MP game as Austria, It gave me a lvl3 RR in a prov while I didnt even research them yet

 

[Sporally]

I hope this bug is fixed in the 1.04 patch. It obviously is a bug and my guess is that someone must have seen this bug before and reported it.

 

[King]

It is something that has been brought to the attention of the great patching Gods.

 

[tyrel68]

It is something that has been brought to the attention of the great patching Gods.

Just FYI, I found the only way for the Private RR event to work is to give 0.001 Machine parts in the event itself.

This was the only way for me to fix the baghdad and ethiopian RR events.

 

[Sporally]

What do you mean with 'have to give 0.001 machine parts'?

 

[tyrel68]

What do you mean with 'have to give 0.001 machine parts'?

The only way I managed to get the Turks or Ethiopians to actually get a railroad was to give ANY amount of machine parts alone with it.

It didn't matter if it was a small fraction. I didn't say it makes sense but I do try and test things down to a point that they work