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One of the things I noticed is that HG recently amended their complaint and are now claiming actual copying as opposed to derivative works. It seems to me that's a much taller mountain to climb.... am I out to lunch on that?

Let me hit that on the weekend, because I want to go a bit in-depth on those and the standards of proof required.

(Also, as for court documents with a sense of humor, this opinion in the Prenda Law case is still the best one I've seen. PDF link to Popehat.)
 

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HG still has to prove standing. The current motion for summary judgment asserts that the court has already determined that the rights are owned by big west and not HG. So if that is found they are precluded from relitigating any issue involving the unseen.

On a side note if you want to read some funny/snarky pleadings check out CIG's responses to crytech.
 

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I guess I got some disagree marks because I wasn't long-winded enough.

The Macross models are Wasp, Stinger, Phoenix Hawk, the 3 LAMs, Valkyrie, Crusader, Rifleman, Archer, Warhammer, Longbow, Marauder and Marauder II.

HBS is not using any of these mechs.

HBS is using the Atlas, Locust and Shadow Hawk. The Atlas was never unseen and the Locust was Crusher Joe and the Shadow Hawk was Dougram, which have both not been unseen for awhile and were never suppose to be involved in this current issue.

Claims against HBS dismissed with prejudice.

Only HBS was removed, and not the entire lawsuit thrown out. This means we need PGI to win, and we still see a good chance of it, but we won't see the Unseen unless they do win.

Claims dismissed with prejudice doesn't mean you can turn around and include mechs involved in claims against other parties from the lawsuit. That just means new claims will be brought up.

What about the Wolverine and Griffon?
 

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Let me hit that on the weekend, because I want to go a bit in-depth on those and the standards of proof required.

(Also, as for court documents with a sense of humor, this opinion in the Prenda Law case is still the best one I've seen. PDF link to Popehat.)
I don't consider Prenda law so much fumy writing as an epic case of whup azz being opened up, which is its own kind of funny.
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Those are from Dougram (along with the Thunderbolt, BattleMaster, and Shadow Hawk), so they're fine.
And the Scorpion and Goliath! This clearly means it is time to play it safe and add quads... It's the only logical next course of action, so says we all.
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HG still has to prove standing. The current motion for summary judgment asserts that the court has already determined that the rights are owned by big west and not HG. So if that is found they are precluded from relitigating any issue involving the unseen..

Even if the HG case is dismissed, doesn't that open the door for Big West to file suit against PGI.
 

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Greetings Mechwarriors,

Let's remember for now to still carefully phrase our posts on this topic, try and avoid certain legal conjecture, and to only post for this on this topic here in this thread.
The Shadow of the Enemy may have passed in this land, but his gaze is still directed towards other lands. As yet our hope remains as long as their strong walls hold. Let us not take the chance for the time being that might inadvertently blunt their efforts to resist the darkness through certain ill advised phrasings.


Otherwise,
Thank you, Carry on.
 

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^ Just some individual wordings that could be mined for otherwise than intended. Hopefully only a little while longer Mechwarriors. You can see Mt. Doom from here...
 

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^ Just some individual wordings that could be mined for otherwise than intended. Hopefully only a little while longer Mechwarriors. You can see Mt. Doom from here...

Havamal: So since HBS, Mr Weisman, and HG have settled. Can someone tell us about the terms of the settlement? I wont ask the specific questions here, but you know the answers we want.

Or, are we awaiting the final outcome? Which could be next week, or sometime mid-2021? :(
 

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