And as others said, it's highly unlikely we'll see the Marauder and the Warhammer before the HG vs PGI issue doesn't get sorted in PGI's favour.
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_33WnIpLEADui_Rh6dqSqtOKgNWRveWQ/view
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your a couple of pages late - still good newsI come bearing good news friends!
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Huh. I saw people still being sad over the Unseen not being in and thought it hadn't been posted yet. Welp. Gif still relevant.
Well, this one becomes subjective. [Mod Edit: Lets still please avoid such statements] which would be the point of a redesign rather than inventing a new mech [Mod Edit: Lets still please avoid such statements] That doesn't mean we will know the outcome of that lawsuit, but even with HBS being dismissed with prejudice, the costs and attorney fees were not covered. [Mod edit: Lets not speculate]
Edit: And to clarify, PGI already did new designs for those mechs, these aren't the exact Macross models.
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With the case HG vs PGI still ongoing the Unseen are sadly still not in.
Let's hope PGI will win and idealy will win soon, but winning would be the main priority.
At least Atlas, Locust & the Shadowhawk are safe!
The Atlas is an original design afaik? And the comparison made in the original filing of the lawsuit was completely laughable.
To me HG's case was always extremely weak against HBS and Jordan because they were trying to compare designs like the Locust and Marauder, Atlas and Valkyrie, Shadow Hawk and the Spartan. None of those were at all similar. Well I suppose if you just looked a broad design features like the Atlas and Valkyrie were robots with two arms, two legs and humanoid.
For example:
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This picture is some of the comparisons HG was using against HBS and Jordan.
How the hell could anyone say that those on the left were the same as the ones on the right?
So hopefully we might be able to see some of the unseen designs in the game. But don't hold your breath just yet.
Edit: Sorry. The picture is available on google search if you go looking for it to see how pathetic the comparisons were.
For example:
(Mod edit: even being part of the case docs, please don't post HG claimed art.)
This picture is some of the comparisons HG was using against HBS and Jordan.
How the hell could anyone say that those on the left were the same as the ones on the right?
So hopefully we might be able to see some of the unseen designs in the game. But don't hold your breath just yet.
Edit: Sorry. The picture is available on google search if you go looking for it to see how pathetic the comparisons were.
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Hang on. Since HBS won, can't they just add the [Mod Edit: Lets still please avoid such statements] unseen? HG can't sue HBS again over them using the Unseen, so they should be clear, right? Or is it something they're doing to help PGI's case?With the case HG vs PGI still ongoing the Unseen are sadly still not in.
Let's hope PGI will win and idealy will win soon, but winning would be the main priority.
At least Atlas, Locust & the Shadowhawk are safe!
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HBS isn't using the [Mod Edit: Lets still please avoid such statements] unseen. They are using the Atlas, Locust and Shadow Hawk. [Mod Edit: Lets still please avoid such statements]
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No HG never alleged HBS used the unseen we have been waiting for. Their little part of this case is now over, but if they use the unseen before the outcome of the full PGI case they are open game for a new copyright infringement charge.
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HG wasn't trying to sue HBS over the unseen as the unseen aren't currently in the game. It was rather that HG claimed the Atlas, Locust, and Shadow Hawk "looked to similar" to some Macross entities.
http://www.sarna.net/news/harmony-gold-is-at-it-again/
The unseen are still tied up in the main suit against PGI. We have to wait until that's finally over with to determine what their status will end up being.
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Yeah, we all know that HG is suing over the Atlas, Shadow Hawk, and Locust, but we all know that that's only because there are no images of the [Mod Edit: Lets still please avoid such statements] Unseen for HBS's game for HG to sue over. I get what you're meaning though, legal specificities and all that.
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Yup. HBS won't release the Marauder and Warhammer (or other Unseen 'Mechs) for BATTLETECH unless PGI wins the suit against HG.
And it was funny that you would have to be blind, literally blind, to not see that the design comparison HG were using were of completely different designs.
It's as though they just grabbed some macros designs and said that's close enough without actually sitting down and looking at them.
About the only things that could have been better for this case for HBS is if HG were made to pay their court costs.
Most people don't believe it, but a lot of court documents have little winks like that thrown in. Writing court docs and decisions can be boring and a lot of lawyers and judges have pretty biting senses of humor. When they get a chance to throw a curve they usually take it. One of my favorites is from a San Antonio case about a strip club violating a law covering, well covering: "Should the parties choose to string this case out to trial on the merits, the Court encourages reasonable discovery intercourse as they navigate the peaks and valleys of litigation, perhaps to reach a happy ending.” If you want to see what happens when a judge-frustrated novelist gets to write an opinion, Pennsylvania v Dunlap (https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/08pdf/07-1486.pdf)
I suppose when 90% of your job is producing routine, almost ritualistic paperwork, you have to do something to brighten your day.
Way back at the beginning of this, I had to wonder how many of these lawyers permitted themselves a little smile as they wrote their dead-serious documentation about the ownership of "warrior robots."
Way back at the beginning of this, I had to wonder how many of these lawyers permitted themselves a little smile as they wrote their dead-serious documentation about the ownership of "warrior robots."
A friend of mine worked on the legal rights for Fox vs Marvel. He said watching multi million dollar lawyers arguing if Miss Marvel was exclusive to Fox because she was a mutant or if membership in the Secret Warriors/Avengers meant she was Disney. Also explaining that Carol Danvers, Kanala Khan, Sharon Ventura were all under the title Miss Marvel and were each tied to the Avengers, mutants, or the Fantastic Four. He claimed it was the best job he ever had.
