Also Persia is fun, but easier to form as Qara Qoyunlu rather than actual persians like Tabarestan. Thing with QQ is that you Almost match Ottomans at start and can prevent them from getting big ASAP.
Most Fun Asian Nation for a New Player
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Oirat captured emperor of Ming at 1449 under Esen(khan of Oirat, has 2/5/5/1 pips as general), so you can challege beating Ming.
Jianjhou made Qing and deserves to be called to protagonist of East Asia. It has great national idea and some events and decisions including 2 nation forming(Jianjhou->Manchu->Qing).
Mongol has very hard position, but once were the greatest empire.
These are interesting nations I think, but if you want 'fun', you should play European nations.
Jianjhou made Qing and deserves to be called to protagonist of East Asia. It has great national idea and some events and decisions including 2 nation forming(Jianjhou->Manchu->Qing).
Mongol has very hard position, but once were the greatest empire.
These are interesting nations I think, but if you want 'fun', you should play European nations.
Jianzhou is one of my absolute favorite nations. Lots of decisions to change tags which is pretty engaging for a new player, really great ideas; quite a few directions to advance into without being weighed down by coalitions, which sometimes happens in India. Additionally, it's smooth sailing going along and squishing neighboring nations with your nomad troops and starting tech level; while you maintain a really easy way out of the tech group and government type with the nation forming decisions you'll be hunting.
Just ally Ming day one and butter them up and you should have no problems. By the time they're the only other nation you really border, you'll be outrageously stronger than them.
Just ally Ming day one and butter them up and you should have no problems. By the time they're the only other nation you really border, you'll be outrageously stronger than them.
Playing any Japan Daimyo is amazing. The most fun I had with eu4 ever was with Oda clan -> Japan.
Tons of events and flavour. Dynamic early game. Atmosphere. But the best part is absolute freedom. Once you unite Japan you can:
>conquer Manchu
>conquer China which can take 100-200 years alone
>subjugate Spice Islands
>colonize Siberia
>colonize North America as I did
>clash with Europeans in NA and win
>conquer Andes
>conquer Mesoamerica
>go for Africa
>naval domination in the world
Anything. I ended up creating Pacific empire stretching from Philippines and Macau to Kamchatka and Mexico.
Tons of events and flavour. Dynamic early game. Atmosphere. But the best part is absolute freedom. Once you unite Japan you can:
>conquer Manchu
>conquer China which can take 100-200 years alone
>subjugate Spice Islands
>colonize Siberia
>colonize North America as I did
>clash with Europeans in NA and win
>conquer Andes
>conquer Mesoamerica
>go for Africa
>naval domination in the world
Anything. I ended up creating Pacific empire stretching from Philippines and Macau to Kamchatka and Mexico.
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I'll throw another recommendation for Vijayanagara. I played them right after Art of War came out for my fourth game (and the first I really felt like I knew what I was doing). They have an amazing position for trade, they start at the south end of India so only really have dangerous neighbors on one side, they're in a position to colonize the Indian Ocean or Indonesia, and they have several small nations right next door that can be easily annexed or vassalized. Building my way up to form Hindustan that game was were I learned vassal feeding; India's great for that. Just watch out for Bahmanis and Orissa in the beginning, but if you can whittle them down the only thing you should have to worry about is coalitions or colonial Europeans.
Apart from the starting position, there's also the issue of religion. Confucianism hasn't been fleshed out yet, so these nation are a little more bland. Neither is Shintoism, but that's limited to Japan, which gets a lot of extra flavor stuff. Buddhism get events in 1.12, but it's Karma mechanic is a bit rough, since it's the only one that can give only drawbacks. Both Hinduism and Islam have events and mechanics that reward you, so I would give an edge to such nations.
You can try Mughals in 1520s start. They have great ideas, they start with cavalry combat & core cost reduction bonus. They also start with an awesome ruler & general. Their enemies are the Dehli Sultanate which is far more powerful in terms of quantity but you have technology superiority over them as well as your general Babur has some really good stats. Once you conquer India, you pretty much go anywhere you want as India is very rich.
While can be quite challenging early game, but it will help you learn about the battle & war mechanics. You have fewer troops then Dehli Sultanate so you need to be careful & catch them in the wrong terrain to effectively defeat them.
While can be quite challenging early game, but it will help you learn about the battle & war mechanics. You have fewer troops then Dehli Sultanate so you need to be careful & catch them in the wrong terrain to effectively defeat them.
My first two Asian games in EUIV were as Vijayanagar and Malacca.
I heartily recommend both.
I heartily recommend both.
Decided to play Japan as the shogun. Only played for like a couple hours but already united Japan and will hopefully conquer Korea soon. Will definitely do Vijayanager next though.
Bengal is a fun choice as well. I did them for the Bengal Tiger achievement. They have some fun events and a solid trade node that helps fuel them, and get all the india diplomacy fun as well. Good place to learn diplomacy for expansion as you don't start out as the most powerful in the area, but are not too weak either.
There is always Russia as well
There is always Russia as well
Mewar is awesome for an Indian game. Ally with vijayjay, annex Malwa -> Have 3 vassals from the get-go
