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[Lord of Pain]

Certain cultures have too few names IMO, so I've added an abundance to the sami / lappish in my game but it would be great if they're included future editions of HIP. I've already removed a bunch that had obvious christian origins but if people feel it's still too many names or find something too christian sounding, just remove those. I also added the patronyms that had been given to all of the finnic group except for the sami.

    lappish     = {
        graphical_culture = ugricgfx
        
        color = { 0.2 0.65 0.65 }

        male_names = {
            Ábo Ábrrán Ádo Ágá Ággi Ahkebeaivi Ahkejuoksa Ahkemiella Áibmu Áigesárri Áigin Áillon Áillun Áilu Áivvit Ále Áles Álfa Algebaeivi Állan
            Ámmá Ámmol Ámmon Ámmot Ándá Ándde Ánddijá Ánde Ánnjá Áno Ánot Ansealbma Anselbme Ánte Ántte Ápmot Áppo Áppá Ápparan Ára Áron Árrajuoksa
            Ártne Ártor Árvet Ásko Áslat Ásllak Ásllat Áttán Ávgos Ávvu Bánccu Báncu Bánnos Bávllos Bávlos Bávva Bávval Bávvál Bážá Dáidu Beahkká Baeivi
            Baeivvet Baenta Beartu Bedar Bede Begá Behtter Bide Biede Biehtár Biejan Biejaš Bienná Biera Bieraš Bierdna Bierra Bierrán Bierrelaš
            Bierril Bierža Bieržá Biette Bihto Bijáš Bilzi Cáijá Coavvá Cuivi Curtnaš Dárbmu Dávgon Deahppán Dearsu Defá Diijá Doaivu Doaivvot Doffá
            Dommá Dorste Duomis Duommá Duongi Dure Duttá Duvká Duvre Eaddji Ealjá Edo Egel Eidnár Eidno Èoavvá Einár Eiven Eles Emel Eret Erke Ertno Esájas
            Feles Fretterat Gábe Gáhppá Gáiju Gáivvaš Gáktu Gállá Gállagas Gáppe Gárral Gávgu Gealbu Gearral Geažotmiella Guhtur Guivi Hánas Hánno Hánsa
            Háral Hárri Heaibmu Heaika Heammu Heandarak Heandarat Hegon Heige Heigen Heijá Hendá Henddo Heneš Hennet Hentto Herko Idga Iiggá Iisku Iissát
            Ilbmar Imbá Indu Irján Iskko Isku Issák Issát Ivvár Jágát Jágo Jáhken Jáhko Jáhkot Jálbmár Járre Járri Jeansa Joavnna Johá Jompá Jongu Joret
            Jorgen Jovnna Jovssek Jovssep Jovsset Jovssut Jovvá Juffe Juho Juhu Juhvo Julejus Jullá Jungi Junkil Junne Junte Juoksa Jusát Jussá Jusse
            Jussenaš Juvvá Juvven Kállá Kárral Klemmá Lágon Lájár Lárá Láras Lársa Lávo Lávra Lávrrahaš Lávrras Lávrrohaš Leaifa Leammá Leammu Ledjo Lejo
            Lemek Lemet Lemmá Lenne Máde Máden Mádes Máidnu Márte Mávdnos Mávnos Mávra Mávrres Mellet Mielat Migál Migáš Migil Migos Migoš Migot Milot Mohkku
            Mokci Mortu Mures Náhkol Náinnas Nanit Nibá Nigá Nigo Niilá Niillá Nilá Nilán Nilke Nillá Nilpa Ninna Njulgu Nuhtte Nunná Nuvtte Oaván Oge Oijá Olá
            Olen Olet Olle Ommot Orddot Ovla Ovlá Ovlin Ovllá Peivas Piera Poalla Ráffo Ráidner Rálfa Ránso Rásmmos Rásmos Rássa Rástoš Rásttoš Rávdnár Rávle
            Reaidnu Rede Riggu Riibma Riigu Rijá Rikkar Ruigi Sáhkár Sálá Sálbmo Sálmmo Sálmo Sámmol Sáppá Sárrajuoksa Sávlos Selen Sierge Siiggur Siivár Silvu
            Simit Simmá Sivdda Skarild Speaidna Sveidna Uddi Udjjus Uhkku Ulmmá Urbán Uvllá Válde Valljáš Vállju Válter Veaidnu Veaiku Vide Viggu Vilhealbma
            Volbmar Vulle Vuoitu Vuolát Vuollá
        }
        female_names = {
            Ádá Agát Áidná Áidnu Áila Aile Áile Áillun Áilon Áilu Áirá Áire Álehtta Álehttá Álet Álgen Aliinná Aliissá Állet Álvá Ássa Ássá Ásta Ástá Ávdnos Ávrá Bávlá
            Bente Biellá Biergá Bigga Biggá Bigge Biijá Bikká Biret Birrá Birtá Buohttá Cuvje Dárjá Dávdna Delle Diinna Diinná Duiri Dulá Duojá Duová Edel Eijá Eirá
            Eivor Elbmá Elen Ellá Elle Ello Ervá Èuvje Florá Gáddjá Gáhte Gáre Gáren Gealá Geardá Gearte Gideš Gierá Girste Giste Gollá Gunná Gutnel Heide Heidi Njáveš Helve
            Henná Ibbá Iidá Iiddá Iinná Ikká Ingir Inner Irbmá Isá Janihtá Janiinná Jaská Judet Juljá Juoksáhkká Kearte Láidná Láilá Lávrá Leainná Leandu Leinná Lejá
            Lieddi Livli Lohcca Magredá Mágredá Máidna Máijá Máijjá Máilá Máire Mákke Máre Máren Máret Márgu Marihttá Márjá Márjjá Mártá Mávdná Mávnnel Meartá Meret
            Merjá Miljá Mirjá Nánni Naná Násti Njáves Norá Oajá Oggi Oile Piijá Ráfi Ráhkel Ráijá Rávdná Ravna Redá Rihttá Riidá Riittá Risten Ruhte Ruvsá Sáben Sábin Sáddja Sáibmi Sánná
            Šealggá Seará Sáráhkká Šeará Selggo Seljo Suonjar Siinná Sikká Silvá Sire Siru Sive Sivnne Soabá Sofe Soffá Solla Sojá Sunná Suoinná Sussu Tuá Uksáhkká Unni Vábo Válbor Várbu Várvá
            Venlá Verá Viivvá Virba Virvá Vuohkku         
        }
        from_dynasty_prefix = "of "
        male_patronym = "npoika"
        female_patronym = "ntytär"
        prefix = no # The patronym is added as a suffix

        modifier = finish_culture_modifier
    }

If more dynasty names can be added that'll also be great, I have a few in mind.

 

[Kljunas]

You should keep Christian name, but just make sure they're restricted in the religion files.

 

[das]

Speaking of Christian names... might it be possible to let non-Christian cultures start using them if they convert? Steppe nomads and such could definitely use it, considering how often they end up Orthodox or even Catholic in my games.

 

[TheDeaconBosco]

Prussian Culture is probably one of the worse offenders on that front barely like 20 males names...

I did hear about this book detailing a list of old prussian names but it's only in german however and doesn't seem to be sold online. Here's the references though.

R. Trautmann, Die altpreussischen Personnennamen, Göttingen, 1925.

 

[DamianR]

Prussian Culture is probably one of the worse offenders on that front barely like 20 males names...

I did hear about this book detailing a list of old prussian names but it's only in german however and doesn't seem to be sold online. Here's the references though.

R. Trautmann, Die altpreussischen Personnennamen, Göttingen, 1925.

Found the book, extracted some names....

Female (?)

Aldegut Algande Algarde Algotte Angot, Angonite, Antke, Antime, Antewe, Arbute, Ardete, Audange, Austigaudis
Bagidote, Boydike, Banke, Beswage, Bonganste, Beawte, Burse
Nadope, Dabore, Doberin, Aldegut, Dargute, Darge, Dorge, Daukinte, Daugel, Dirse, Diwote, Tuledrauge, Drauste
Eitwide, Eikunde, Austegade, Goducke, Gailine, Tautegal, Garbote, Garpse, Gastame, Miligaude, Minegaude, Steinegaude, Swagaude, Tulegaude, Wirigaude,
Gedeke, Geze, Koglande, Naglande, Sanglande, Surglande, Koglinde, Nirglinde, Golte, Junde, Kabe, Kaliste
Kike, Kirpeine, Kinste, Kantune, Lipike, Lubenne, Lute, Madlite, Madelitz, Mindota, Montike, Marscheide, Marsune
Marsune, Maude, Maudite, Mindota, Pomande, Mede, Megote, Minote, Manemer, Milade, Nabute, Naglinde, Nakoke,
Pensude, Permaude, Perwisse, Nide, Pamana, Papule, Pomire, Raitwille, Queriam, Quekaie, Prerosse, Kodrune, Rige, Ramota, Sawetre,
Sabine, Zobin, Sandinge, Sanglobe, Saimte, Sankete, Sanda, Sandute, Sige, Stantike, Sprode, Slobute, Stagote, Steinegaude, Stenke, Swite
Talpite, Teutgaud, Gintaute, Tikune, Tische, Talpite, Trinta, Trintel, Trene, Tunge, Twerke, Wainote, Waisnore, Walgot, Walgune, Walgene,
Wiltaute, Sewetre, Wennike, Wirtel, wissemante, Wissemoisel, Wissetrint, Wissabel

Male (?):
Alwarinus, Arket, Ardang, Argaldinus, Arwist, Ardan, Artman, Ertmanus, Astim, Asovirt,
Bandot, Bando, Belav, Wissebar, Butil, Bautau, Bundo
Nadop, Dogel, Nadar, Pader, Perdor, Sander, Dargil, Dersko, Diwan, Diwel, Diwil, Diwon Eikint, Eikel, Eitmunt, Eitil,
Genderik, Gandil, Gandit, Gedam, Gedun, Jedun, Wissegar, Girdion, Gilbirs, Globs, Glabuno, Sanglaw, Poglawun
Hisprot, Istiwn, Kabilo, Nakai, Keko, Klausgal, Toloclaus, Toleclaus, Kawald, Kantir, Surkrut, Labenik, Butilabes,
Lemekin, Aleps, Lutmodus, Nalubo, Luban, Lutimero, Neimok, Nermok, Premok, Mako, Makis, Artman, German, Norman
Manemer, Mantot, Muntil, Montimand, Eitmunt, Namego, Marus, Mar, Mald, Namir, Waisnar, Naunin, Nautil, Nerman
Numo, Pokel, Pelwin, Perband, Permens, Pomin, Predus, Preidor, Quedang, Queiren, Regun, Widerik, Sodrek, Rosgin, Runot,
Sanglaw, Santop, Santas, Sandow, Skolin, Skolaris, Skiris, Skumo, Skomand, Stanto, Stebin, Stenam, Surstoy, Surkrut, Surbancz, Sarginus, Swaiprat, Sormest
Talow, Tolaw, Tikant, Tessin, Tandot, Wissetrint, Tolneko, Toram, Toranis, Tarant, Waimer, Waisnar, Narwais, Warin, Woimar, Kawald
Asowirt, Kudwin, Pelwin, Much, Windil, Wiseman, Wiskant, Wissebar,


I speak German and some Polish, so I hope that I did not make any mistake, as the source book does not mention, if a name is female or male...

 

[Warial]

Found the book, extracted some names....

I'm not a specialist on Old Prussian linguistics, but aren't those german transcriptions? I don't think they can be put into game in current form.

 

[JonStryker]

I'm not a specialist on Old Prussian linguistics, but aren't those german transcriptions? I don't think they can be put into game in current form.

What other "transcription" do you want? It is not as if there was a standard prussian language. Most of the Baltic languages were once written with an orthography based on the German one due to the fact that the Balts were christianized by (among others) Germans.

I am more concerned about the ones that look pretty Latin to me (Argaldinus) and should be "de-latinized" first.
Here's the source he most likely used: http://archive.org/stream/diealtpreussisch00lewy/diealtpreussisch00lewy_djvu.txt

 

[Warial]

What other "transcription" do you want? It is not as if there was a standard prussian language. Most of the Baltic languages were once written with an orthography based on the German one due to the fact that the Balts were christianized by (among others) Germans.

I am more concerned about the ones that look pretty Latin to me (Argaldinus) and should be "de-latinized" first.
Here's the source he most likely used: http://archive.org/stream/diealtpreussisch00lewy/diealtpreussisch00lewy_djvu.txt

Sorry, as I said I've little idea about Old Prussian. Though in Lithuanian it's not uncommon for name to end with -as -us -is.

 

[kdonovan]

That was my thought too. (I often think Lithuanian names look too Latin!)

I think it is pretty inevitable that Baltic names will have a German gloss given where we are likely to get writings about Balts from.

Unless someone has a better collection of Baltic names we might as well use these.

 

[Narvait]

Nice list of Prussian names. Part of those ending in -e is def masculine. For some reason in German sources or German Latin sources Baltic early names have this -e.
Geideminne - Gediminas
Mindowe - Mindaugas
Varidote, Nameisse, Vissewalde, Vetseke, Rammeke are examples for Livonian Chronicle. Proper Latvian has -is or -s in nominative.
Why -e? Couple of possible reasons. 1) maybe because -e was the (archaic) vocative form; or 2) particular German dialect (Low German?) had issues with short vowels in word end positions, they spelled it as weak e.

edit: Ok, found this to explain for reason for -e.
From book "Vocative!: Addressing between System and Performance"
"The Chronicle contains a considerable number of Old Prussian male personal names. A large portion of which ends in -e. This is surprising.. Old Prussian had no inflectional class that ends in -e in the Nominative. However ...Old Prussian possessed vocative case, while Middle High German did not. ...I proposed to regard at least a subset of these names in -e as Old Prussian vocatives, most probably of o-stem declension, mistaken for nominatives by the Teutonic knights. ... for example for the name Wilke, which looks like expected vocative of wilkis (wolf)."

So, those names ending in -e. Is like for example, calling Kievan Grand Princes - Vladimire, Yaroslave, Sviatopulke...
and should be properly substituted by -is.
"Wirigaudis was a great ruler" - Nominative
"Oh, glorious Wirigaude, please help me!" - Vocative

edit2:
For example, many names ending in -gaud-/-gaut- are male names. From to catch, to get, to receive. (for example, earliest Sambian trader name found is Vidgautr in sagas (r is here Norse Nominative)
Miligaude, Minegaude, Steinegaude, Swagaude, Tulegaude, Wirigaude - their true (Old Prussian) form should be like -is, just like another name from list - Austigaudis.

 

[Narvait]

So, this is my suggestion:
Prussian:
male_names = {
Alvyds Arelis Auctunis Bajors Beidris Budo Dagonis Ekkelis Galindis_Galindo Gaurons Gerdautis Glandis
Jauguttis Karats Klukis Milzis Nomeds Prusis Sergonis Ulinniks Ulitis
Herkus Skalmants Swayno Diwanus Kleckis Glapis Linkus
Miligaudis Minegaudis Steinegaudis Swagaudis Tulegaudis Wirigaudis Witgautis Austigaudis Tautgaudis
Koglandis Naglandis Sanglandis Surglandis Nirglandis
Gintauts Wiltauts Zobins Tuledraugs Gailins Kawalds Sarginus Swaiprats Montimands
}
Mostly from list above, added some leaders of Great Prussian uprising (Herkus Skalmants Swayno Dywanus Kleckis Glapis Linkus). Herkus (Henricus Monte) is not a proper Prussian name, perhaps it can be replaced with Mants if we are into accuracy, since Herkus was short of Henricus. Kleckis (bear) is legendary father of Glandis (Glanda Kambila), mythical ancestor of Rusia's original Romanovs dynasty.
Witgautis - from sagas, Sambian trader Witgautr.
Gaudis names (from catcher, receiver), Glandis names (from shining), Tauts names (from nation/folk), some funky names from list above like Zobins (Sword), Tuledraugs (Tule-friend), Gailins (shiner), Sarginus (guard), Swaiprats (own minded).

Unfortunately could not find Yatwing noble names who sued for peace with Kievan grand prince (there was some Russian chronicle source, that I cant find now).

If there is interest, also adding updated and fixed for grammar Latvian (Lettigallish) names list, added nobles from Livonian Chronicle. Added names from early Livonian economical docs. Added few names from sagas. Added Latvian Christian names too, used after conversion.

Lettigallish:
male_names = {
Valdis Visvaldis Talivaldis Gunvaldis Miervaldis Raganvaldis Ramvaldis Druvvaldis
Viesturs Nameisis Lammekinus Varidots Kairis Rusins Madis Shabis Gailis Ramekis Dabrelis Darbeslavis Vetsekis Dainis Dauksha Lokerus Dorno
Austris Auseklis Dzintars Vilnis Kalvis Agris Alnis Modris Laimonis Ziedonis Zintis Jumis Trimpus Usins Balodis Baise Bikshe Cirulis Daugeruts Dausprungs Davins Demas Dobris Elmedis Erasts Gibedats Galvis Janis_John Jaunulis Jedetus Juvagis Kagis
Karijots Kerstigens Klavess Kuliens Kurlemushis Manvyds Meinekinus Mendunis Pukuvers Ringauds Rushkis Scurdo Shvarnis
Tautvils Traidenis Treniota Vaishvilks Valikails Vykants Yudkis Butovits Narvaitis Sarguns Shutris Skornands Sprudeiks Steiguts Svendarags Vishikuts Erdzivils
Andris_Andrew Antons_Antoninus Bartulis_Bartolomeus Krishjanis_Christian Kristaps_Christopher Konstantins_Constantine Davis_David Justs_Eustace Jurgis_George
Ansis_Hans Jekabs_Jacob Janis_John Jazeps_Joseph Lauris_Laurence Markus_Marcus Martinsh_Martin Matiss_Matthew Mikelis_Michael Niklavs_Nicholas
Patriks_Patrick Pavils_Paul Peteris_Peter Toms_Thomas Aleksandrs_Alexander
}

 

[Lord of Pain]

Wow, it can't have been two years already since I posted this thread, cause that would mean that I'm slowly getting older, which is unacceptable.

Anyway, I know that very little of the old prussian language has survived, so unless the SWMH team reads it and feel okay with them right away, I'll look into those names this weekend and pass it on.

 

[Herr Doctor]

Unfortunately could not find Yatwing noble names who sued for peace with Kievan grand prince (there was some Russian chronicle source, that I cant find now).

Yotvingian names are in Hypatian Codex: Ankad, Borot, Bruten, Bural, Dor, Gunnar, Jaščelt, Judejko, Jundil, Komat, Liadstij, Nebiast, Nebr, Mintela, Mondun, Mowdenko, Mudejko, Pestilo, Rajmoč, Rustij, Siko, Skirmunt, Skomond, Skurdo, Skudo, Stegut, Stejkint, Šiutra, Šutr, Šurpa, Tajsew, Widewut, Zibr.

However, take in mind that naturally most of them are terribly corrupted by the Russian chroniclers, so retsoring their original forms won't be easy.

 

[Narvait]

Bruten and Widewut in Hypatian? That is possibly huge. I know them from Simmon Grunnau fairytale only.
Brutenis and Wid(e)vuds would be acceptable Baltic forms and must be added. Perhaps Brutenis should be made Prussian ruler of earliest start date too to honor Grunnau.

As to corruption I agree, I mean how one could arrive to Žemaitis (proper form) from Russian Zhmud? But I will Google up maybe some linguists tried this.

 

[Erilaz]

Talking about the Prussians, I see that HIP has made noble titles for many Baltic tribes recently. I made an effort to remove all High Chiefs in my submod, and that also meant that I researched Prussian titles independently of the HIP team. Perhaps some of you could offer a third opinion?

HIP localisation:

empire_prussian;Riki;Riki;Riki;;Riki;;;;;;;;;x;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
empire_of_prussian;Riki of;Riki of;Riki of;;Riki of;;;;;;;;;x;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
emperor_prussian;Rikis;Rikis;Rikis;;Rikis;;;;;;;;;x;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
king_prussian;Konagis;Konagis;Konagis;;Konagis;;;;;;;;;x;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
duke_prussian;Waldnika;Waldnika;Waldnika;;Waldnika;;;;;;;;;x;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
count_prussian;Waldwiko;Waldwiko;Waldwiko;;Waldwiko;;;;;;;;;x;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
baron_prussian;Waldunas;Waldunas;Waldunas;;Waldunas;;;;;;;;;x;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
baron_female_prussian;Supuni;Supuni;Supuni;;Supuni;;;;;;;;;x;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

NHO localisation:

baron_prussian;Rikis;Rikis;Rikis;;Rikis;;;;;;;;;x;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
count_prussian;Laukinikis;Laukinikis;Laukinikis;;Laukinikis;;;;;;;;;x;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
count_title_ruler_consort_prussian;Laukinikis;Laukinikis;Laukinikis;;Laukinikis;;;;;;;;;x;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
count_title_ruler_consort_female_prussian;Ludini;Ludini;Ludini;;Ludini;;;;;;;;;x;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
count_female_prussian;Ludini;Ludini;Ludini;;Ludini;;;;;;;;;x;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
duke_prussian;Laukinikis;Laukinikis;Laukinikis;;Laukinikis;;;;;;;;;x;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
duke_title_ruler_consort_prussian;Laukinikis;Laukinikis;Laukinikis;;Laukinikis;;;;;;;;;x;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
duke_title_ruler_consort_female_prussian;Ludini;Ludini;Ludini;;Ludini;;;;;;;;;x;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
duke_female_prussian;Ludini;Ludini;Ludini;;Ludini;;;;;;;;;x;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
king_prussian;Konagis;Konagis;Konagis;;Konagis;;;;;;;;;x;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
king_female_prussian;Ludini;Ludini;Ludini;;Ludini;;;;;;;;;x;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
king_title_ruler_consort_prussian;Konagis;Konagis;Konagis;;Konagis;;;;;;;;;x;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
king_title_ruler_consort_female_prussian;Ludini;Ludini;Ludini;;Ludini;;;;;;;;;x;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

*dukes_called_kings = yes


As you'll notice there's some huge discrepancies here. My source was the Elbing dictionary.



Also, it seems the Prussian name list was expanded quite a bit recently:

Spoiler

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        graphical_cultures = {ugricgfx}
       
        color = { 0.56 0.55 0.4 }

        male_names = {

                Ata Aldegutis Algands Algerds Alnukis Alsutis Angaldis Angots Antiks  Antavs Astinis Auktuma Auleps Austigaudis Audangs Augaldis Ausis  Asoverts Augulinis  Alvareins 
                Besdens Balinis Bitelis Buliks Baidots Baisus Bajuns Bigedis Besvais Blivas Brauligs Buts Butilabs Bauds Baitis Barduns Baidiks Baiduns Bandus Bandekis Banduns Bundiks Bunds Butekis Belavs Bongands Bingus
                Dargs Daguns Druktinis Debikans Dabors Dabots Dabnus Dinguns Daristis Dargelis Daukants Dirs Dirsuns Druneiks Drauds Eikants Eikuns Eitvids Eitiavs Eitmants Ervids Erdvas Erdetis Erbuts Erdangs  
                Gerutis Gaudekis Gevinis Gestekis Geikints Glauds Glands Glupas Glaubuts Gundeinis Grins Grandans Grazutis Gailmenis Gailiks Gailinis Gads Gands Gandikis Garbs Gardekis Gastams Gedilgs Gedekis Gedauts Gedimts Gintauts Genebuts Gintilis Gerkants Gerstutis Geras Girdavs Girduns Gelbirs  Glabuns  Galdis Gubiks Gudenis Guds Glabis Girdilis
                Isgubs Isprats Istuts Isteis Jodas Jodutis Jaunestants Jaunegeids Jundelis 
                Kalneins Kopsavs Kantegerds Kaunis Katulis Kurviks Krakis Krauklis Kranklis Kaibuts Kants Kirsnans Keršus Karialinis Kropolinis Klaugenis Kaltints Kalts Kariotis Kantuns Kirpeins Klausils Kodruns Koglands Kolangis Kotulans Kodravs Kruteinis Kamuns Komaters Klausigailis Klokis Kadagis Kušys Kavaldis Kenervis
                Ligedis Likuts Lokavs Linkas Lunkans Lunkytis Langedabs Langestants Lamotis Lemekins  Lutis
                Madlits Mauds Menkas Mazas Mantedruvis Mantimants Mantemenis Mingerds Mingaudis Milgaudis Milgeids Mains Makrutus Manits Mindots Mants Mantekis Maustais Mastuns Munts Mundravs Merekis Mils Miluns Misligentis Medeniks Medis Makis
                Nakalnis Naglands Nakaimis Nisdruvis Nodats Nodabs Nausetis Nobands Nabuts Nadars Napragands Napragaudis Napragavs Napradavs Nirglands Nagribs Nakais Nakunts Nalabis Naligs Nalubs Nermukis Nameris Nadingis Naprats Nergunds Navaldis Navekis Naverts Nauds Naudots Nautints  Nids Napals Nakvytis Narvais Nerveiks Naturis
                Posils Perapa Ponats Preibuts Peluks Pagaulus Palaidus Pasutelis Pausta Paustilis Piktas Prešiniks Pasergis Paituns Perbands Plovons Pobravs Pomeds Poviltis Preides Preidruvis Podangs Preidaris Preituris Preiviltis Preives Poglabuns Pograzus Prestlangis Prestvils Preimukis Pomants Permauds Pomenis Pomeris  Ponids Pasauts Podars Pakelis Papuls Pansdoprats Peniks Pensuds Perviltis Perveis Preitungis
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[Herr Doctor]

Bruten and Widewut in Hypatian? That is possibly huge. I know them from Simmon Grunnau fairytale only.
Brutenis and Wid(e)vuds would be acceptable Baltic forms and must be added. Perhaps Brutenis should be made Prussian ruler of earliest start date too to honor Grunnau.

Couple of them are from other sources indeed, good catch. Just wanted to make the list a bit more "complete".

As to corruption I agree, I mean how one could arrive to Žemaitis (proper form) from Russian Zhmud? But I will Google up maybe some linguists tried this.

May be with some basic comparative analysis using Prussian ones? This would be great indeed.

Yeah, I was just about to post that, the current list is my take on auld Prussian names I sent to Aasmul earlier this year. Source is the same as above (Lewy). Also, I am aware the historical characters and the titles still need to be Balticised. Source for the titles is mostly the bilingual Bible.

Aren't there some German characters (for example, "w") still used in reconstructed Prussian? Personally I would rather keep them for aesthetics.

 

[Narvait]

Yeah, I was just about to post that, the current list is my take on auld Prussian names I sent to Aasmul earlier this year. Source is the same as above (Lewy). Also, I am aware the historical characters and the titles still need to be Balticised. Source for the titles is mostly the bilingual Bible.

That list is very good!
It is slightly different from mine, but only how we use -s/-is, which I am not an expert
I would only add Vitgautis as the earliest mention of Sambian personal name. And Brutenis/Widewuts for Grunnau Legend. Mants because of Herkus Monte.
And perhaps Herkus_Henry.

And
Does Glupas mean anything in Prussian? In Latvian Glups means stupid unless it means smthg else in OPr I would remove it.

Dirs and Dirsuns also, (a*s, man who s*its), but I vaguely remember it had different meaning in OPr.

 

[Narvait]

The issue with Riki(s) is very problematic. Rikis was the translation for Lord (God), and Riki is a loan from Reich (Thy Kingdom come). Regarding Balticising the titles, I think just changing the W to V would do the job in this case (no vocative -e suffix to be seen).

Given how big Norse impact was on West Balts I believe concept of Rīki and rikis was known to them (eg Austrriki).
Vytings (Slavic vitjaz) would be for minor Noble? Will read some more on this.

 

[Erilaz]

These are the ones of interest that I took from my source:

Rikis - Herre (Lord/Master)
Konagis - König (King)
Waldwico - Ritter (Knight)
Laukinikis - Leman (Landowner/Vassal)
Ludini - Wirtyne (Hostess)

I came into this with no prior knowledge, so I might have been mistaken about "Rikis" for example. The Elbing Vocabulary has it as meaning "Herre" which I took as Lord/Master hence I used is as the baron title.

 

[Narvait]

Re fine nuances -s/-is apparently in Catechisms were only -s, whereas Elbing vocabulary had both forms, but Mazhutis guessed i was "silent" in -is.
It may have depended on dialect, In modern Latvian we use for example suns and sunis (dog). And not always Latvian -is= Lith -is or Latvian -s = Lith -as.

So, I guess for our purposes it does not matter. Except if -gaudis is -gaudis then it is not -gauds in other name. Which is done there.