More Gavelkind Nonsense!

[Stratagyfan101]

Okay, so my mother is Duchess of Aquitane, Poitou, Gascogne, and Bourbon, and I am the primary heir under gavelkind yet I am only set to inherit Aquitaine and two counties within the Dychy and my younger brother is set to inherit Bourbon, Poitou and Gascogne along with the county of Poitiers. (I apologize if I spelled anything incorrectly. I'm not good with French names and am going off memory.

I just do not understand why the titles are not being split even remotely evenly as well as why the non-primary heir is getting the better end of the deal. Both of us are one county counts currently.

 

[HKFlash]

I just do not understand why the titles are not being split even remotely evenly as well as why the non-primary heir is getting the better end of the deal. Both of us are one county counts currently.

That's just how the law works. The oldest heir is the main heir, he just has to share one his titles in this case, because he only has one brother.

 

[stars2heaven]

I don't get it either. I hate how this law works in the game. Titles are never split even remotely evenly. If there are 2 children to inherit, the majority of the titles will always go to the younger child. It's dumb.

 

[Stratagyfan101]

That's just how the law works. The oldest heir is the main heir, he just has to share one his titles in this case, because he only has one brother.

I understand they share titles. I like the law in theory. In practice though it just does not seem to work as described. Should the split not be even? It doesn't make sense that the non-primary heir is taking 3-4th of the pie. Again, my complaint is not with the the titles being split but the fact that the split is granting the non-primary heir more titles of equal rank.

 

[knppel]

Gavelkind is pure randomness. I'd pay 5 euro or more for a dlc where you could (during lifetime) set up a will as Gavelkind ruler and decide who is to get what (appearently you need to assign every son a title before the oldest can get a second)

 

[Stratagyfan101]

Gavelkind is pure randomness. I'd pay 5 euro or more for a dlc where you could (during lifetime) set up a will as Gavelkind ruler and decide who is to get what (appearently you need to assign every son a title before the oldest can get a second)

This, this and so much more of this. I would love to be able to assign my Gavelkind empire. I would pay for a DLC that just fleshed out the system better. Something that would check the number of heirs, compared to the number of primary tier titles, then check how many each heir is to receive, and try to make sure they each get contiguous titles if possible.

 

[icon41gimp]

I understand they share titles. I like the law in theory. In practice though it just does not seem to work as described. Should the split not be even? It doesn't make sense that the non-primary heir is taking 3-4th of the pie. Again, my complaint is not with the the titles being split but the fact that the split is granting the non-primary heir more titles of equal rank.

Hmm? You're getting 3 counties to his one.

 

[Stratagyfan101]

Hmm? You're getting 3 counties to his one.

I'm getting two to his one. I should have specified that one of those two counties was the the capital of Aquitaine. Here is how the succession should work, in my mind.

Split primary tier titles equally between heirs if possible. In this scenario it should be Aquitaine and Gascogne to me and Bourbon and Poitou to him.
Next split secondary titles same as before. When checking what title a character is to receive it should check titles against the duchy to prioritize de jure or contiguous. In my case, I should get Bordeaux, being the primary county, he should get Poiters being de jure Poitou and I should then receive Angouleme because I am primary heir.
Follow the same process for all lower titles.

Lets say I have 5 sons, Two Duchies, 3 counties, and two baronies. The first two should get duchies as well as be the first two to receive counties (preferably within their de jure duchy or contiguous to it if possible). Then the third son should get his county and lastly the two baronies should be split between the last two kids.

I really hope the developers could look into making serious improvements to gevelkind or at the very least making a more information on how this works known. It would be nice to have some knowledge of how the realm will be split.

 

[Cuthuthulu]

One thing that might improve Gavlekind is the ability to set your primary heir. It won't stop your empire from splitting up. But you'll be able to prevent your idiot firstborn from ruling the kingdom. Gavlekind would still be useless, just slightly less so.

 

[Thure]

One thing that might improve Gavlekind is the ability to set your primary heir. It won't stop your empire from splitting up. But you'll be able to prevent your idiot firstborn from ruling the kingdom. Gavlekind would still be useless, just slightly less so.

This! William the Conquerer make it the same way. He says "No. My second Son shall be the Heir of England. The first only shall became Normandy!" To choose which heir became which county/duchy/Kingdom would be absolutly perfect and historical correct. Many Rulers with such a law make testaments, where they choose which heir became what.

 

[ticattack]

This! William the Conquerer make it the same way. He says "No. My second Son shall be the Heir of England. The first only shall became Normandy!" To choose which heir became which county/duchy/Kingdom would be absolutly perfect and historical correct. Many Rulers with such a law make testaments, where they choose which heir became what.

My understanding was that Normandy was considered the better inheritance, due to it being the family's namesake and the relative backwater-ness of England. That could well be wrong, though.