More Formable Nations?

[DLFebin]

A minor remark, Emperor is a tier-5, you are forgetting not playable barons/mayors/bishops that are true tier-1, as was defined in tutorial of the game, IIRC.

 

[Yenzen]

Ah, I always thought of them as tier-0 because it was too low for a player to survive having just it and since the title had little abilities on it's own (no court and limited abilities overall.)

 

[DLFebin]

Ah, I always thought of them as tier-0 because it was too low for a player to survive having just it and since the title had little abilities on it's own (no court and limited abilities overall.)

Tier-0 are landless characters

 

[Luhood]

Well, I can see your point about the tier-4 title, however what are your views on:

- The formation of a third tier "grand duke" title if you have enough duchies (say, 4). This might have a few disadvantages compared to Kingships such as not being able to go above medium CA (no primogeniture) and giving half the yearly prestige.
- The unification of kingdoms before just that - after two kingships have been connected for long enough, they're considered naturally connected in a union (removing the "Desires kingdom of X from dukes) - this is mostly to avoid never creating the secondary title or destroying almost always being the best tactic.

Well, I... I don't know really. The first one I think is rather redundant, frankly. If you own 3 or 4 duke titles you most often have the necessary amount of titles to form a Kingdom, or just usurp it if you already are a vassal to the kingdom in question. I just can't see a place for it other than in the kingdoms with a huge amount of duchies (France, England, Russia), and even then the cynic in me tells me it is just a ploy to not have to bother with managing a lot of titles (which in my opinion is the obvious and bitter fruit of working towards getting many titles in the first place).

For the second one, I've never seen the "Oy, why can't we rule ourselves buddy?" as a problem myself. I mean, of course they would want their people to be free under their own banner! Who wouldn't? An implementation I would think interesting was if they wouldn't be asking for their lands freedom if they are of the "wrong" culture (such as Swedish nobles wanting an independent Finland), but a greater chance of the nobles going native in a passing generation or two as a balance for this. If a big duke wants to be king make sure he wouldn't act upon this desire. Simple as that really, is it not?

 

[Steely Dwarf]

No. Not if it is formed the usual way.

Spoiler

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I applaud your maturity sir, where's the joke about clapping?

 

[Wallain]

maturity

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