IMO, Illyria > Yugoslavia at least in this time period, since the name Illyria was actually used by French, Austrians and Croats.
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IMO, Illyria > Yugoslavia at least in this time period, since the name Illyria was actually used by French, Austrians and Croats.
What we need really is more of the HRE states and free cities. Netherlands needs more provinces too.
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Lets not talk about Yugoslavia it tends to attract wierd people...
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I really love the idea of Mongols forming Yuan if they expand enough into china (perhaps it could be a mongol cultural union?)
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Make a Maghrebi cultural union as an alternative to Andalusia (so Maghreb would be one path, and Andalusia is another). It'd be a nice change from when an AI Tunis or other Maghreb country just conquers all of North Africa and just sits there.
Adding on to the Iceland idea, you could also make an event that turns Norway into Iceland if it loses all it's holdings in Scandinavia (usually to Sweden/Scandinavia).
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Wait a minute.Wiz did not immediately shoot down the idea of a Latin empire (or rhomania) does that mean there will be a chance for other crusader states like Antioch.
Why do you prefer Rhomania instead of Romaniæ for the Latin Empire? So much class could be lost. 
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I'm all for catholic incarnation of Byzantium. Please let it happen! Combating the heresy will never get better
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Why do you prefer Rhomania instead of Romaniæ for the Latin Empire? So much class could be lost.
I don't think the games can handle the "æ" letter but if it can then by all means
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Hey Wiz! I got some ideas/requests.
1. Allow Ajuuraan or any indian tech Somali to reform into Majeerteen, giving kingdom rank, Muslim tech, and either theocracy or monarchy. Somalia desperately needs some flavor.
2. Allow Franconian cultures to form Franconia, like the Westphalia decision.
3. I support Tataria as a formidable nation by Tatars.
4. Allow Tlemcen to form Algiers.
5. Allow a Vajrayana oirat or Chagatai to form Dzungaria.
6. Instead of forming Ottoman turkish beyliks can firm Turkey and choose between republic or monarchy (requiring a high adm tech)
7. (Just an idea) Rename Tunis to Hafsids and Uzbek to Shaybanids. Lets Hafsids have the decision to form Morocco, Algiers, Tunis or Tripoli. Shaybanids keep the decision to form Bukkara
Thanks!
1. Allow Ajuuraan or any indian tech Somali to reform into Majeerteen, giving kingdom rank, Muslim tech, and either theocracy or monarchy. Somalia desperately needs some flavor.
2. Allow Franconian cultures to form Franconia, like the Westphalia decision.
3. I support Tataria as a formidable nation by Tatars.
4. Allow Tlemcen to form Algiers.
5. Allow a Vajrayana oirat or Chagatai to form Dzungaria.
6. Instead of forming Ottoman turkish beyliks can firm Turkey and choose between republic or monarchy (requiring a high adm tech)
7. (Just an idea) Rename Tunis to Hafsids and Uzbek to Shaybanids. Lets Hafsids have the decision to form Morocco, Algiers, Tunis or Tripoli. Shaybanids keep the decision to form Bukkara
Thanks!
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Just chimming in to say that a dual-tag (eg "Austria-Hungary, Denmark-Norway, Polish-lithuania etc) for unions would be a very good idea and quite historical too, even if it could potentially get a bit unyieldy. Maybe limit it to up to 3 countries, starting with the controller of the union then move down on order of development.
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Yeah a cultural union for Tatars would be great, something really great to aim for playing as any of the nations in the group. Giving Mongols something to aim in China would be interesting too.
Let's compromise and call it Rhomaniæ then.Why do you prefer Rhomania instead of Romaniæ for the Latin Empire? So much class could be lost.
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Why do you prefer Rhomania instead of Romaniæ for the Latin Empire? So much class could be lost.
Instead of Latin Empire, how about Latin Byzantium? As a non-Greek and non-Orthodox Byzantium?
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Hey, I'm a Norwegian with some historical knowledge who likes the idea of an Iceland tag, but is outraged at the idea of an Icelandic culture in 1444 that's so often thrown around here. I know you didn't mention culture, but the idea is so abhorrently ahistorical to me that I'm gonna rant about it anyway. Let me explain why; I hope you'll read it.
At its earliest, Iceland was settled by Norwegians, and although the Althing ruled common matters in Iceland, it was still a Norwegian crown dominion, and continued to be so until the kingdom of Norway was dissolved. Norway and Iceland had fairly frequent communication and cultural exchange, and neither had all that much cultural exchange with anyone else – most of Norway's cultural exchange was Norwegians leaving their homeland to settle Britain during the Viking age, although some brought Anglo women back home as slaves, which I suppose you could count as cultural influence. Either way, Norway didn't import much culture, and Norwegian and Icelandic cultures had not significantly diverged in 1444. They had started to, but not enough to call them different cultures, unless you also want to balkanise Norway into little three-province cultures (which would technically be more correct, but insanely pedantic, and also stupid from a design PoV) and split Sweden into Geatish and Swedish.
The defining point in history for the huge difference in language and culture that we see today was the Black Plague, which hit Norway hard; Iceland, while it lost about as many people, wasn't politically affected at all, since it was so remote. Life went on in Iceland, while Norwegian society and political structure collapsed, and most of its literate class died. After this, serfdom and feudalism were implemented at much bigger scale in Norway, but the country was still absolutely devastated compared to its golden age a wee century before. As we all know, its political weakness culminated in the Kalmar Union.
Being Denmark's bitch and not a sovereign state for four hundred years did a lot to Norwegian culture, and to Norwegian-Icelandic interactions. Of course, Iceland and Norway had less interaction, because Denmark took over the role of overlord, and there was no longer a Norwegian state to communicate with. Meanwhile, the upper class of Norwegian society was largely informed by, or ethnically Danish; together with the loss of literate knowledge of Old West Norse, this caused the Norwegian language to slowly become... Danified?, to the point where it was barely recognisable as separate from Danish at all when Norway was given to Sweden in the Napoleonic wars.
Iceland, meanwhile, remained pretty much unchanged, because it was so remote. So, technically speaking, in EU4 terms, Iceland is still Norwegian to this day, while all of Norway was culture-converted to Danish and then had something like that shitty HAB event that culture-converts all of the Hungarian region to Hungarian, except modern Norwegian is still very Danish.
tldr: Icelandic culture in this time-period doesn't make sense, because Icelandic is 'real' Norwegian. You'd have to implement events about the decline of the Norwegian culture, and ones that made Norwegian provinces Danish automatically if owned by Denmark – but really, there's no point. It's a lot of work for two shitawful provinces, when the current solution is perfectly fine culture-wise. So we can just have a Norwegian-culture Iceland tag.
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Combating the heresy? Catholicism is the heresy!I'm all for catholic incarnation of Byzantium. Please let it happen! Combating the heresy will never get better
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I love the idea of this. If we're looking for a name that's not "Romania/Rhomania", I suggest just "Constantinople". It may not be 100% accurate, but allows the "Latin Empire of Constantinople" to change governments without having any name weirdness.
As for the Golden Horde, it does have alternate names as the "Kipchak Khanate", and the "Ulus of Jochi", at least according to Wikipedia.
