more awesome diplomatic consequences

[davej]

So I'm playing as fascist Norway and form a faction with Finland. Soviet Union declares war on Finland and I join in to defend them. Germany declares war on me and the Soviet Union. Finland is not in the war with Germany. So there are 3 separate wars : SU vs me and Finland, Germany vs me, and Germany vs SU. We all manage to capitulate the SU, which was crucial to my survival. If it wasn't for my aggressive attack on the SU, SU would've defeated all of us. I NEVER even get a peace conference. Germany just takes all of the SU and gobbles up my divisions via attrition in Siberia. No exiled units, no nothing. Total BS.

 

[Bundeswag]

Solution would be delaying that peace conference until you and Germany are at peace. I wonder how something like this didn't come up in beta?

 

[davej]

Solution would be delaying that peace conference until you and Germany are at peace. I wonder how something like this didn't come up in beta?

Yeah right? Wasn't this game delayed for a year? I'm probably going to take another hiatus.

 

[Redz28]

Yet another example of how broken the game is

 

[Meglok]

So I'm playing as fascist Norway and form a faction with Finland. Soviet Union declares war on Finland and I join in to defend them. Germany declares war on me and the Soviet Union. Finland is not in the war with Germany. So there are 3 separate wars : SU vs me and Finland, Germany vs me, and Germany vs SU. We all manage to capitulate the SU, which was crucial to my survival. If it wasn't for my aggressive attack on the SU, SU would've defeated all of us. I NEVER even get a peace conference. Germany just takes all of the SU and gobbles up my divisions via attrition in Siberia. No exiled units, no nothing. Total BS.

The main issue in this scenario (like quite a few others) is that the focus trees are not always coded for sandbox play. Germany is coded to attack Norway via focus and doesn't look at Norway's ideology. In reality a Fascist Norway would have been invited into the Axis in a heart beat.

The peace conference issue is probably on their list. PDS really needs to incorporate the latest version of Enhanced Peace Conference mod into the game, they already added the older version. Have no idea why you didn't get invited to the table, unless you did all your attacking from Finnish territory? You can fix that by asking for provinces from Finland via the diplomacy tables, that way you can expand from your own captured territory.

Not sure why your ally Finland didn't join your war with Germany, did you ask them?

 

[Ronski]

I have developed a strange situation with Belgium. I was playing with France and joined the allies in the war against Germany, but for some reason Belgium always stayed neutral which was cool for me since they were still democracy and supported me with volunteers and lend-lease. However for some reason UK decided to declare war on Belgium and I opted to stay out of it and returned the favor by sending support to Belgium against my allies. As the USSR and me took down the Germans and Belgium heroically defended itself and conquered Netherlands, It now stands against the allies by itself surrounded by USSR and France who are both neutral towards it while allies keep trying futile naval invasions. Belgians are actually attacking the USA troops on the french border but since I have given them military access to my country this means very little in terms of war progression, I have no idea how this situation will develop and I don't see Belgium ever falling untill nuclear bombs are developed or the USSR decides to help the allies.

Also as a side note, all the democracies are now disliking me because I capitulated the Axis countries in europe and created world tension??

 

[davej]

The main issue in this scenario (like quite a few others) is that the focus trees are not always coded for sandbox play. Germany is coded to attack Norway via focus and doesn't look at Norway's ideology. In reality a Fascist Norway would have been invited into the Axis in a heart beat.

The peace conference issue is probably on their list. PDS really needs to incorporate the latest version of Enhanced Peace Conference mod into the game, they already added the older version. Have no idea why you didn't get invited to the table, unless you did all your attacking from Finnish territory? You can fix that by asking for provinces from Finland via the diplomacy tables, that way you can expand from your own captured territory.

Not sure why your ally Finland didn't join your war with Germany, did you ask them?

I have no issues with Germany attacking Norway, that's fine.

I did do all the attacking from Finnish provinces, but my war % involvement was significant and I controlled some Russian states, notably Leningrad. The icing on the cake was losing 24 divisions in Siberia due to supply/attrition as soon as it became Germany.

I didn't ask Finland to join the German war for several reasons. First, my main goal was to take the SU out, Germany is programmed to lose so they aren't a real threat. So, I wanted Finland just to concentrate on Russia and not waste divisions (use Germany to help me). And lastly, giving Finland some control of Russian state provided a buffer between me and Germany so they can attack me (can't attack from a neutral territory).

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