Mongolian Empire Monarch Lists!

unmerged(11318) · Jan 6, 2003

All Mongolian Empire Scenario Members,

Please place the country name in the subject line, and then list that country's rulers. If there are two lines please note it by placing two posts, and numbering them.

Thanks,

unmerged(10971) · Jan 6, 2003

Meath

Code:

[color=ffffff]###Meath (Dublin)

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "Brodar Thorkellson"
	startdate = {
		year = 1148
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1160
	}
	DIP = 4
	ADM = 4
	MIL = 6
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "Astell Ragnaldson"
	startdate = {
		year = 1160
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1170
	}
	DIP = 3
	ADM = 4
	MIL = 5
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "Diarmaid MacMurchada"
	startdate = {
		year = 1170
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1171
	}
	DIP = 2
	ADM = 3
	MIL = 6
	dormant = no
	remark = "Also King of Leinster"
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "Richard Strongbow"
	startdate = {
		year = 1171
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1172
	}
	DIP = 4
	ADM = 4
	MIL = 9
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "Hugh de Lacy"
	startdate = {
		year = 1172
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1186
	}
	DIP = 2
	ADM = 2
	MIL = 5
	dormant = no
}
#By 1185, Meath was under full English control.[/color]

Leinster

Code:

[color=ffffff]###Leinster

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "Diarmaid MacMurchada"
	startdate = {
		year = 1149
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1171
	}
	DIP = 2
	ADM = 3
	MIL = 6
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "Richard Strongbow"
	startdate = {
		year = 1171
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1177
	}
	DIP = 4
	ADM = 4
	MIL = 9
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "John Lackland"
	startdate = {
		year = 1177
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1216
	}
	DIP = 3
	ADM = 4
	MIL = 4
	dormant = no
}
#John became King of England in 1199, and Leinster came under full English control in 1207.#[/color]

unmerged(10971) · Jan 7, 2003

Scotland

Code:

[color=ffffff]historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "David I"
	startdate ={
		year = 1124
		}
	deathdate = {
		day = 24
		month = may
		year = 1153
	}
	DIP = 6
	ADM = 8
	MIL = 5
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "Malcolm IV"
	startdate = {
		day = 24
		month = may
		year = 1153
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 9
		month = december
		year = 1165
	}
	DIP = 4
	ADM = 4
	MIL = 6
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "William the Lyon"
	startdate = {
		day = 9
		month = december
		year = 1165
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 4
		month = december
		year = 1214
	DIP = 8
	ADM = 7
	MIL = 9
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "Alexander II"
	startdate = {
		day = 4
		month = december
		year = 1214
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 13
		month = july
		year = 1249
	}
	DIP = 6
	ADM = 5
	MIL = 6
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "Alexander III"
	startdate = {
		day = 13
		month = july
		year = 1249
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 19
		month = march
		year = 1286
	}
	DIP = 9
	ADM = 9
	MIL = 8
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "Margaret of Norway"
	startdate = {
		day = 19
		month = march
		year = 1286
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 26
		month = september
		year = 1290
	}
	DIP = 3
	ADM = 3
	MIL = 2
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "John Balliol"
	startdate = {
		day = 17
		month = november
		year = 1292
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1297
	}
	DIP = 3
	ADM = 4
	MIL = 2
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "Robert I the Bruce"
	startdate = {
		day = 17
		month = november
		year = 1292
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 7
		month = june
		year = 1329
	}
	DIP = 6
	ADM = 8
	MIL = 9
	dormant = yes  #activated either by choice in 1292 or by normal event on 25 March 1306
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "William Wallace"
	startdate = {
		year = 1297
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 25
		month = march
		year = 1306
	}
	DIP = 7
	ADM = 7
	MIL = 9
	dormant = no
}
#This is where it starts to get fun.  I'll leave it to events to switch between David and Edward...
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "David II"
	startdate = {
		day = 7
		month = june
		year = 1329
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 22
		month = february
		year = 1371
	}
	DIP = 5
	ADM = 4
	MIL = 5
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "Edward Balliol"
	startdate = {
		day = 12
		month = august
		year = 1332
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1337
	}
	DIP = 4
	ADM = 2
	MIL = 7
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "Interregnum"
	startdate = {
		year = 1290
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1336
	}
	DIP = 3
	ADM = 3
	MIL = 3
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "Robert II Stewart"
	startdate = {
		day = 22
		month = february
		year = 1371
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 19
		month = april
		year = 1390
	}
	DIP = 2
	ADM = 3
	MIL = 3
}
#Believe it or not, it gets worse...
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "Robert III"
	startdate = {
		day = 19
		month = april
		year = 1390
	}
	deathdate = { #You'll be very thankful when you see this message...
		day = 4
		month = april
		year = 1406
	}
	DIP = 2
	ADM = 1
	MIL = 1 #I told you it got worse.
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "James I"
	startdate = {
		day = 4
		month = april
		year = 1406
		}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1437
		}
	DIP = 4
	ADM = 1
	MIL = 5
	dormant = no
}[/color]

Kings of Orkney

Code:

[color=ffffff]historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "Harald II Gamli"
	startdate = {
		year = 1139
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1206
	}
	ADM = 6
	DIP = 6
	MIL = 8
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "John I"
	startdate = {
		year = 1206
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1231
	}
	ADM = 4
	DIP = 2
	MIL = 5
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "Magnus II"
	startdate = {
		year = 1231
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1239
	}
	ADM = 5
	DIP = 5
	MIL = 5
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "Gilbert"
	startdate = {
		year = 1239
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1256
	}
	ADM = 5
	DIP = 5
	MIL = 5
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "Magnus III"
	startdate = {
		year = 1256
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1273
	}
	ADM = 6
	DIP = 7
	MIL = 5
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "Magnus IV"
	startdate = {
		year = 1273
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1284
	}
	ADM = 5
	DIP = 5
	MIL = 5
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "John II"
	startdate = {
		year = 1284
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1312
	}
	ADM = 4
	DIP = 4
	MIL = 4
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "Magnus V"
	startdate = {
		year = 1312
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1329
	}
	ADM = 3
	DIP = 3
	MIL = 3
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "Malise"
	startdate = {
		year = 1329
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1353
	}
	ADM = 3
	DIP = 3
	MIL = 3
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "Erengisl"
	startdate = {
		year = 1353
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1360
	}
	ADM = 2
	DIP = 3
	MIL = 3
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "Alexander de l'Arde"
	startdate = {
		year = 1360
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1363
	}
	ADM = 4
	DIP = 4
	MIL = 5
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "Henry I St. Clair"
	startdate = {
		year = 1363
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1400
	}
	ADM = 8
	DIP = 7
	MIL = 9
	dormant = no
	remark = "Also controlled Greenland, possibly colonies in modern Canada"
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "Henry II"
	startdate = {
		year = 1400
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1420
	}
	ADM = 5
	DIP = 5
	MIL = 5
	dormant = no
}[/color]

Havard · Jan 7, 2003

Actually, Birger Jarl (1250-1266) was never king. He was regent for his son Valdemar. Wouldn't a "minister" event be more appropriate?

Kasperus · Jan 7, 2003

Originally posted by Havard
Actually, Birger Jarl (1250-1266) was never king. He was regent for his son Valdemar. Wouldn't a "minister" event be more appropriate?

Well, I`m just taking over the list that Arilou provided and he said that he ruled till 1266 for his son... I know nothing about Sweden myself and Birger Jarl I know only as a forum-member so I can just script what others provide...

Arilou · Jan 7, 2003

That is true, perhaps a minister event would be better? (although he IS included in msot annals of rulership as his own entry)

Kasperus · Jan 7, 2003

Hmm, for the moment i`ll keep him then a monarch. Also Sweden deserves at least one decent monarch I guess

unmerged(739) · Jan 10, 2003

Castille

Code:

[COLOR=silver]
#1072-1157 ruled by Leon

historicalmonarch = {   #not much info +avg. stats given 
 	id = { type = 6 id = ? }
	startdate = { 
		year = 1157 
	}
	enddate = { 
		day = 31
		month = august
		year = 1158
	}
                name = "Sancho III the Desired" 
	DIP = 5
	ADM = 7
	MIL = 6
	dormant = no
}

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = ? }
	startdate = { 
                                year = 1158 
	}
	enddate = { 
		day = 6
		month = october
		year = 1214
	}
                name = "Alfonso VIII the Noble"
	DIP = 6
	ADM = 7
	MIL = 9
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = ? }
	startdate = { 
		year = 1214 
	}
	enddate = { 
		year = 1217
	}
                name = "Enrique I"
	DIP = 5
	ADM = 5
	MIL = 5
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = ? }
	startdate = { 
		year =  1217
	}
	enddate = { 
		day = 30
		month = may
		year = 1252
	}
                name = "St Fernando III"
	DIP = 8
	ADM = 9
	MIL = 8
	dormant = no
                remark = "San Fernando Rey de Espana; Joined Leon to Castille; Captures Cordova in 1235 and Captures Seville in 1248"
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = ? }
	startdate = { 
		year =  1252
	}
	enddate = { 
		year = 1284
	}
                name = "Alfonso X the Wise"
	DIP = 7
	ADM = 8
	MIL = 6
	dormant = no
                remark = "Elected HRE (1257) but never aceded the throne; XIII century renaissance of Castille"
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = ? }
	startdate = { 
		year =  1284
	}
	enddate = { 
		year = 1295
	}
                name = "Sancho IV the Brave"
	DIP = 6
	ADM = 5
	MIL = 7
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {    #could find nothing on him avg stats given
	id = { type = 6 id = ? }
	startdate = { 
		year =  1295
	}
	enddate = { 
		year = 1312
	}
                name = "Fernando IV the Summoned"
	DIP = 5
	ADM = 5
	MIL = 5
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = ? }
	startdate = { 
		year =  1312
	}
	enddate = { 
		year = 1350
	}
                name = "Alfonso XI the Just"
	DIP = 6
	ADM = 9
	MIL = 9
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = ? }
	startdate = { 
		year =  1350
	}
	enddate = { 
		year = 1366
	}
                name = "Pedro the Cruel"
	DIP = 2
	ADM = 2
	MIL = 2
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = ? }
	startdate = { 
		year =  1366
	}
	enddate = { 
		year = 1367
	}
                name = "Enrique II the Bastard"
	DIP = 5
	ADM = 5
	MIL = 8
	dormant = no
                remark = "Usurper"
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = ? }
	startdate = { 
		year = 1367
	}
	enddate = { 
		day = 23
		month = march
		year = 1369
	}
                name = "Pedro the Cruel"
	DIP = 2
	ADM = 2
	MIL = 2
	dormant = no
                remark = "Restored by Black Prince"
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = ? }
	startdate = { 
		year = 1369
	}
	enddate = { 
		day = 
		month = 
		year = 1379
	}
                name = "Enrique II the Bastard"
	DIP = 5
	ADM = 5
	MIL = 8
	dormant = no
                remark = "Finally restored"
}
historicalmonarch = { #nothing to be found, given avg. stats
	id = { type = 6 id = ? }
	startdate = { 
		year = 1379
	}
	enddate = { 
		day = 
		month = 
		year = 1390
	}
                name = "Juan I"
	DIP = 5
	ADM = 5
	MIL = 5
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = { #nothing to be found bad stats fr. name
	id = { type = 6 id = ? }
	
	startdate = { 
		year =  1390
	}
	enddate = { 
		day = 
		month = 
		year = 1406
	}
                name = "Enrique III the Infirm"
	DIP = 3
	ADM = 4
	MIL = 3
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = ? }
	startdate = {
		year = 1406
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 20
		month = july
		year = 1454
	}
	name = "Juan II"
	DIP = 4
	MIL = 5
	ADM = 4
	dormant = no
}

[/COLOR]

Hopefully someone more knowledgable and with better resources can fill in the ones I couldn't find anything on.

Kasperus · Jan 10, 2003

@Gen.Wolfe

Maybe it is my personal peculiarity only, but I think it is better to use localized names (names in own language) for monarchs (though paradox also used it for most countries in gc).
Especially your list becomes slightly weird as you used english and spanish names through eachother

(Alfonso and Juan are Spanish but Ferdinand and Henry English)

unmerged(739) · Jan 11, 2003

Originally posted by Kasperus
@Gen.Wolfe

Maybe it is my personal peculiarity only, but I think it is better to use localized names (names in own language) for monarchs (though paradox also used it for most countries in gc).
Especially your list becomes slightly weird as you used english and spanish names through eachother (Alfonso and Juan are Spanish but Ferdinand and Henry English)

Oh, sorry...

Those were just the ones that were given.

Ferdinand= Fernando (?)

Henry= Enrique (?)

Peter= Pedro (?)

Havard · Jan 11, 2003

I was putting together a list of Norwegian kings for the time, but there are two questions:

1. Rival kings/civil war
For a long time during the late 12th/early 13th century there raged a civil war - two parties elected their own kings. How would you solve such a thing?

2. Personal unions
After 1319 Norway was in personal union with either Sweden, Denmark or - eventually - both. any plans here?

Kasperus · Jan 11, 2003

Originally posted by Gen. Wolfe
Oh, sorry...

Those were just the ones that were given.

Ferdinand= Fernando (?)

Henry= Enrique (?)

Peter= Pedro (?)

I`m not great in Spanish but they look better for me

And paradox used those translations also (fernando and enrique at least)

Kasperus · Jan 11, 2003

Originally posted by Havard
I was putting together a list of Norwegian kings for the time, but there are two questions:

1. Rival kings/civil war
For a long time during the late 12th/early 13th century there raged a civil war - two parties elected their own kings. How would you solve such a thing?

Well, for Poland, Serbia and Hungary (and probably upcoming Russian principalities) I used the one actually controlling the capital (with one exception of a polish duke who was crowned king but didn`t saw krakow before he was murdered). Otherwise just chosed the most influential line (Bosnia).
Or implement 2 lines and make later events to shift between them (something I also did for Silesia and Pommerania).
Use your own judgement as to what is best for Norway I would say

2. Personal unions
After 1319 Norway was in personal union with either Sweden, Denmark or - eventually - both. any plans here? [/B]

As I made Swedish list for now I just implemented all the monarchs including those of Kalmar union. In original GC those countries are represented as independant. I prefer to stick to paradox-definitions personally (so keeping them independant and/or vassalized like in gc) but you know probably more about the matter scandinavia than me to make something up that is most historical.

unmerged(10971) · Jan 11, 2003

England

Code:

[color=FFFFFF]# England #

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "Stephen"
	startdate = {
		year = 1135
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 25
		month = october
		year = 1154
	}
	DIP = 6
	ADM = 5
	MIL = 5
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "Henry II Fitzempress"
	startdate = {
		day = 25
		month = october
		year = 1154
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 6
		month = july
		year = 1189
	}
	DIP = 9
	ADM = 8
	MIL = 8
	dormant = no
	remark = "Ruled almost all of the British Isles and France"
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "Richard I Coeur-du-Lion"
	startdate = {
		day = 6
		month = july
		year = 1189
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 6
		month = april
		year = 1199
	}
	DIP = 4
	ADM = 3
	MIL = 7
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "John Lackland"
	startdate = {
		day = 6
		month = april
		year = 1199
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 18
		month = october
		year = 1216
	}
	DIP = 3
	ADM = 6
	MIL = 5
	dormant = no
}
**************************
*Alternate French dynasty*
**************************
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "Louis I"
	startdate = {
		day = 18
		month = october
		year = 1216
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1226
	}
	DIP = 5
	ADM = 4
	MIL = 7
	dormant = yes
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "Louis II"
	startdate = {
		year = 1226
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1270
	}
	DIP = 7
	ADM = 6
	MIL = 6
	dormant = yes
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "Philippe"
	startdate = {
		year = 1270
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 10
		month = september
		year = 1299
	}
	DIP = 5
	ADM = 5
	MIL = 5
	dormant = yes
}
********************
*Historical dynasty*
********************
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "Henry III"
	startdate = {
		day = 18
		month = october
		year = 1216
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 16
		month = november
		year = 1272
	}
	DIP = 7
	ADM = 4
	MIL = 4
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "Edward I Longshanks"
	startdate = {
		day = 16
		month = november
		year = 1272
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 7
		month = july
		year = 1307
	}
	DIP = 7
	ADM = 8
	MIL = 8
	doramnt = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "Edward II"
	startdate = {
		day = 7
		month = july
		year = 1307
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 25
		month = january
		year = 1327
	}
	DIP = 3
	ADM = 2
	MIL = 2
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "Edward III"
	startdate = {
		day = 25
		month = january
		year = 1327
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 21
		month = june
		year = 1377
	}
	DIP = 6
	ADM = 6
	MIL = 8
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "Richard II"
	startdate = {
		day = 21
		month = june
		year = 1377
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 14
		month = february
		year = 1400
	}
	DIP = 5
	ADM = 6
	MIL = 4
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = }
	name = "Henry IV Bolingbroke"
	startdate = {
		year = 1399
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 20
		month = march
		year = 1413
	}
	DIP = 6
	ADM = 7
	MIL = 7
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 04030 }
	name = "Henry V"
	startdate = {
		day = 20
		month = march
		year = 1413
		}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1422
		}
	DIP = 7
	ADM = 5
	MIL = 9
	dormant = no
}[/color]

Kasperus · Jan 11, 2003

@Judas Maccabeus (and all)
I see one of your monarchs has an id. I guess you copied it as a whole from the paradox-file. But we will probably redistibute all the id`s, also using the paradoxian (otherwise we have only 5000) so that will be changed.
Perhaps a good idea to finally start assigning id`s to monarchs as we will soon need them anyway once we start with events (at least my events will have a lot in common with mnonarch-changes so I need the id`s)

Kasperus · Jan 12, 2003

Check for the last updates of the monarch database the Mongol Scenario Forum on Languish` fora here
Eventually all the lists will move (or at least be copied, depending on the vote) to there.

Arilou · Jan 12, 2003

Originally posted by Havard
I was putting together a list of Norwegian kings for the time, but there are two questions:

1. Rival kings/civil war
For a long time during the late 12th/early 13th century there raged a civil war - two parties elected their own kings. How would you solve such a thing?

2. Personal unions
After 1319 Norway was in personal union with either Sweden, Denmark or - eventually - both. any plans here?

1. I'd make the person who controlled the capital the king.
2. I'd make the Paradox Solution: Vassalize the "subservient" part (possibly also an alliance forming?)

Kasperus · Jan 12, 2003

Just for your information, I started a database for monarch-id`s in our forum on Languish` server.
You can find it here

Monarch-lists with updated id`s will be posted in the monarchs-database thread on Languish' forum.

Kasperus · Jan 16, 2003

All monarchlists for eastern/central europe, balkans and Sweden has been now removed and are only available on our forum at Languish` server.

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