Monday european game

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Interesting session in a different way than the previous ones.

Communiqué from the ministry of armed forces of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics:
From the beginning of 1942 to early april 1942 the Red Army has launched a number of successfull attacks against the fascist enemies of the Soviet Union. Through deceptive maneuvers, the evil germans were expecting the Red Army to attack in Prussia where heavy fighting had taken place in the late 1941. However, the skilled Red Army instead launched a stunning blow against the axis countries of Romania and Bulgaria. Opposition was swept away by the Heroes of the 3rd army supported by the 1st shock army, 6th. army, 2nd. motorised army, 1st mechanised army, 1st and 4th tank armies and Southern Front armies 1 and 2.

While the facist army of Romania took up positions for an anticipated attack on Ploesti, the Red Army advanced on and captured Dobrich. Bucharest was simultaneously secured by paratroopers and later reinforced by the follow up forces from Dobrich. After that action the germans invested their own forces heavily in the area, but the german high command was unable to match the intelligence of the soviet supreme commander. Ruse and Varna in Bulgaria fell after brief figthing. The scene was thereby set for a massive assault from 4 directions against Ploesti where app. 25 romanian divisions had taken up defensive positions. They were powerless, however, against the valiant soviet infantry and superior tanks.

After the fall of Ploesti, Romania was liberated by the Soviet Union and brought into the family of soviet republics. The jubilant masses spontaneously collected their gold and jewelry to pay for the erection of a statue of Stalin in their capital of Bucharest. With its meassures being 11 meters tall and made of 3,459 tons of concrete and 54 meters of steelbars, it stands to be the second largest statue of Stalin in the world! The romanians ofc. are proud of this sign of eternal friendship with the peaceloving people of the Soviet Union!

This grandiose victory for the Soviet Union was magnified by the comparison of a failed british attack on Plovdiv, Bulgaria. Soviet commanders in the sector observed with disbelief how poorly the allied forces performed. Comerade Stalin has now invited mr. Churchill and his general staff to Moscow for a demonstration of the basics of conducting a war.

In Asia, the trecherous japanese joined the axis alliance and immediately advanced on soviet territory. All attempts, however, either failed miserably - like the 3 division amphibious assault on Kamtjatka - or were abandoned by the japanese at the outlook of massive casualties.

The Soviet Unions heroic forces of the far east, OTOH, retaliated by seizing Jiamusu and Jixi in the japanese puppet state of Manchuria, cleverly commanded by comerade Voroshilov. Japanese forces also spent massive efforts at capturing the northern half of the Sakhalin insula only to see the southend of the island captured by the intelligent soviet special forces.

 

[Lord Ederon]

I like work of Soviet propaganda department. It's very nice.

-* most fresh news in The Times *-
Northern Sea is again in the control of Royal Navy. Kriegsmarine was pulled back to Kiel, watched by RAF. Power of Royal Navy is growing in both Eastern Atlantic and Indian Ocean, while British ground forces continue their successful offensive in Southeastern Asia.

 

[MAC]

I was really sad about having to leave because the game was once more a lot of fun. I am really surprised Italy is still alive, so we will play on next monday ?

You guys proved once more that playing HOI in MP is (despite of all the pain getting a game running) way more fun then playing Single Player (even though Historical Stony Road is not bad). So thx a ton for all the fun

Just hope my troops in Greece and Jugoslavia are not lost

 

[Lord Ederon]

Just hope my troops in Greece and Jugoslavia are not lost

No, they're not AFAIK. Brits and Greeks managed to conquer that mountain province (I don't remember the name right now), but I don't think you lost any divisions there.

 

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Let's hope Vissarion posts the game here. Then we can check who ended up where. It was kind of messy in the Balkan region.

 

[Vissarion]

I did quite bad this session, and found out (partially) why at the end: I forgot about the logiststic distance once again
The divisions that attacked Milano were supplied from Malta and Greece, while ~60% of the divisions that attacked Eindhoven near the end was supplied from Iceland (!). He who does not pay attention gets punished. Furthermore, the Allied advance was stopped by German moblie defence, which led to around 20 divisions in any province I might attack before the attackers got there, despite the Germans being spred fairly thin.

I think it's an interesting game, and that the player composition is very nice, with the most skilled/experienced player as Germany and many mistakes on Allied side (no offense, Ederon & Bulldog ).

Next session I look forward to putting those marines to good use, they have just been transported to the East coast along with some prima fleets.

Save: Monday37.zip

 

[Lord Ederon]

I think it's an interesting game, and that the player composition is very nice, with the most skilled/experienced player as Germany and many mistakes on Allied side (no offense, Ederon & Bulldog ).

I dont know about Sgt. Bulldog's actions, but I know about my own. Thus I completely agree. This is my first MP and I don't even think of playing SP again (except one Germany game on VH/F, where I'm attempting World Conquest).

My only real success was that battle in El Arish, otherwise it was nothing shiny. Even that was allowed only cause of no Italian player...

 

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Next session I look forward to putting those marines to good use, they have just been transported to the East coast along with some prima fleets.

Luckily Andrew already warned me about the marines.

Probably their first stop should be Vancouver Island?

It is rather nice there, but too cold for my Japanese soldiers.

 

[MAC]

This is my first MP and I don't even think of playing SP again (except one Germany game on VH/F, where I'm attempting World Conquest).

Hihi - my first MP was a 16h session followed by 8h on the next day.
But I was so excited that I couldnt sleep anyways
Pretty weird game - NChina attacked me (as SU) even though Allies, and Italy and Germany did the 36 Infantry conquest thing (early patch version) and I had to fight a 2 front war. Lost everything except some area around Stalingrad but fought for survival throwing my few tank corpses against the italian and german assaults. Finally the Allies invaded France and they had to deploy troops there so I retook Moscow. I was sooo angry about the NC player stabbing in my back while I had to fight with all my troops in the west that I "signed" a cease fire treaty with the Axis and threw my troops vs the NC forces and encircled them. Unfortunately I cought them in mountains and did not manage to destroy them fast so I had to try to keep the ring close and withstand counter attacks.
So I learned that HOI in MP can be a real pain but its so worth it

 

[Lord Ederon]

Hihi - my first MP was a 16h session followed by 8h on the next day.

huh, you got me...so you enjoyed your first session a lot

 

[Lord Ederon]

Some pictures of current situation. I've made them as Cuba, so I don't reveal position of my fleets and I've found something really strange. US should prepare for nuclear attack: Cuba has its own nuclear program With their total of 10 IC they're producing inf division and 3rd golden nuclear tech That was completely OOC though

 

[Mr.G 24]

wow this looks great. Only time I play HoI online is with friends and that never last. I hope I can join unless I'm too far away(New York). I'm gonna put some of you on ICQ maybe I can be sub?

 

[MAC]

Well its all about the play time - East coast is like 6h difference (5 UK) so its like 13:30 when we start If I am correct. But there are already a bunch of fixed games going on every week at the same time and they exist for almost every timezone. So if you dont find a game to join here just try it at the HOI players association:

http://p210.ezboard.com/bdynaverse

 

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I did quite bad this session, and found out (partially) why at the end: I forgot about the logiststic distance once again
The divisions that attacked Milano were supplied from Malta and Greece, while ~60% of the divisions that attacked Eindhoven near the end was supplied from Iceland (!). He who does not pay attention gets punished.

I don't really understand. If you landed those forces in your occupied region of Europe, why were they still supplied from Iceland? If logistics point didn't automatically change to your occupied european province, why didn't you split/merge them? That's the normal workaround AFAIR.

Furthermore, the Allied advance was stopped by German moblie defence, which led to around 20 divisions in any province I might attack before the attackers got there, despite the Germans being spred fairly thin.

Wellcome to Europe! This is what has been going on at the eastfront for a year now. Perhaps you understand my 'rollerskate germans' expression a bit better now?

I think it's an interesting game, and that the player composition is very nice, with the most skilled/experienced player as Germany and many mistakes on Allied side (no offense, Ederon & Bulldog ).

Apart from not considering SU part of the allies, I don't thnik I made very many mistakes. The only real mistake was the heavy attack I made in the previous session in Poland. I underestimated the effects of the german tech superiority and then Andrew could launch his northern counterattack, which caused a monemtary crisis.

I didi waste a few units along the road (especially aircraft), but that was kind of deliberate since the SU needs to exercise initiative to stay alive.

Allthough I'm ofc. not the best to judge my own performance, I know from other MP games how bad a position mahy SU players end up in so I'm not that dissatisfied despite a very limited progress. And the japanese joining the axis did not curtail my options in Europe in any significant way.

No, I still think World Socialism will eventually be a fact

 

[Lord Ederon]

I don't really understand. If you landed those forces in your occupied region of Europe, why were they still supplied from Iceland? If logistics point didn't automatically change to your occupied european province, why didn't you split/merge them? That's the normal workaround AFAIR.

AFAIK log. penalty is calculated from your owned province (or ally's one), so occupied province doesn't cut it. That's why his troops are still "supplied" from Iceland.

You're quite self-confident and convinced about victory of SU. That can be problem in the future...

 

[Vissarion]

That's right, Ederon.

I don't know how you do on the east front, Bulldog (as I can't see it hehe), all I know is Andrew is pressed from all angles and still not defeated.

 

[Donkey Kong]

Hey, why did you start the game before I joined??
We rejoined Vissarions game like 4 times, and the fifth, my computer crashed. When I got back, you had started playing...

 

[Vissarion]

Hey, why did you start the game before I joined??
We rejoined Vissarions game like 4 times, and the fifth, my computer crashed. When I got back, you had started playing...

Yeah we hurried to start when we were all there because all the joining of other people messed it up.

 

[Lord Ederon]

That's pitty DK, as Viss said, it was real mess there. MAC left, VNetters were always joining game...

Were you playing Romania? If so, they're gone now, you can take over Yugos.

 

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That's right, Ederon.

I don't know how you do on the east front, Bulldog (as I can't see it hehe), all I know is Andrew is pressed from all angles and still not defeated.

This is HOI. Not Red Alert.

There's no single maneuver or deployment that will turn the game upside down and win the whole damn thing just like that - at least not with qualified players. And thank god - I mean Paradox - for that.

This game is a fairly good WWII simulation and what we are currently seeing is also near-historical: neither side can do anything to knock-out the other side. There's only a hideous, long drawn out slugging fight and wearing ecahother down. Eventually one side will be so badly beaten up that a collapse will ensue, but as in history it will be no stroll even after that point.

Even if the US - and perhaps Germany - deploy nukes, there will be much action left. At least 2 years IMO (I hope we make it before x-mas!)

@log. distance: turns out that I remembered wrong too. I'm glad I'm not US then (OTOH liberated FRANCE should be a proper place to draw logistics from so unless you made an amphib invasion or landed in your few US sectors, there shouldn't be such ahughe penalty?).