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OK, I am playing the IGC and I try my hand as Evil Tyrranical King of the Danes, my goal is the total subjugation of those 'willfull Swedes'.

At around 1515-1520 or so, my new king on the throne is Christian III. Under monarch traits, it says "Grevefejden".

Say what?? What does this word mean? I don't speak any Nordic, so I must ask someone to translate.

By the way, whatever that word means, King Christian III was one of the better kings I received. He had very good stats, and his reign coincides with the receiving of a couple good Danish commanders.

Now I'm sure many of you are wondering how my Tyrranical Danish Kingdom is faring against those rebellious Swedes. Let me tell you....

it's a hellish experience! I literally felt like this is the Danish equivalent of "Vietnam". As soon as the Swedes broke their vassalage, I amassed a huge army in Norway and attacked them before they could get allies. I started with an impressive army of 50-60K in Skane, while the entire Swedish army was only half that size. I had two leaders, the Swedes did not have any field commanders at the time of the war. And yet I found that the smaller Swedish guerilla armies could break the morale of my larger and better equipped Danes about 50% of the time!

So yes, five years later I capture Stockholm triumphantly, my Danish Army of Norway marching victorious inside the Rebel Capital. My total army is now less than 10K. My economy is bankrupt. My inflation is 27%. The average cost of infantry is now 16 ducats, where I can no longer afford any infantry to even guard Copenhagen. One of my earlier monarch-leaders was killed in combat by a small Swedish raiding unit. And the impressive fleet that I started the game with (initially 50+ ships) is now reduced to 15 ships due to all the sorties the Swedes made against my fleet. And the Swedes won several naval battles too, even tho my fleet was always 200% larger than theirs.

My oppressive war against the Swedes has gained me two Swedish provinces, but it has crippled my economy.

Paradox describes Sweden as a nation defended by "peasant levies" at the early stage of the game. I have a feeling that things were stacked a bit more in their favor, eh? I'm sure the Swedish programmers at Paradox are snickering at my experiences as the Danish Tyrant. ;)

P.S. - I was forced to take out the Bank Loans. I had no choice. The Swedes somehow managed to land a small force in Copenhagen. Had I delayed building troops for a counterattack, they could have taken my capital.

Grevefejden indeed!
 

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I tried several online dictionaries in Swedish, Norwegian, Danish and German, and none had this word. I'll try a friend I know who speaks Swedish natively, and get back to you.
 

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Grevefejden

Grevefejden means, literally, "the Count Feud". Unfortunately I don't remember exactly what went on, but it I'm pretty sure it was one of those unpleasant civil war like struggles for power. I'll look it up when I get home tonight.

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Sounds like a really good King, then. :D Don't plan on any major diplomatic offensives while he's around :D
 

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Grevefejden was a civil war that raged in Denmark between 1534 and 1536. Duke Kristian had himself elected king in 1534 but was not popular among the bourgois of Denmark and especially not in Skåne. The old king Kristian II was supported by money and troops from Lübeck to re-take the throne and these troops took control of Skåne and the island of Fyn. However, the Danish nobility supported the new king and in 1536 all rebelious towns (including Köbenhavn and Malmö) had to open their gates to the troops of Kristian III.

BTW, Kristian III had good realtions to Gustav Vasa in Sweden, so a war against Sweden with him is quite un-historical.:D
 
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IIRC Christian III tried to break the power of the nobility and thus got himself some mad counts on his ass.

The issue was that Christian wanted to improve the living conditions for peasents and poor people in general but the nobility opposed him.

I might be completely off though.

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It's kind of strange that a Swedish word should be used to describe a Danish king in an international game. They could have replaced it with 'Civil War'.
 

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What I found was this: "The Hanseatic Alliance, though still strong at this time, was unable to stay the distance, and was severely weakened as a result of Grevefejden [The Count's Feud], the civil war from 1534-1536 that resulted in Christian III's accession to the throne.".

So what I don't understand is how the civil war that led to the King's rise can be a trait of that king. I don't think any other kings in the game have as traits the cause of their accession. Traits are characteristics, strengths and weaknesses of their character.

Dev, are you saying it is also a Danish word as well as Swedish?
 
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Originally posted by AndrewT

So what I don't understand is how the civil war that led to the King's rise can be a trait of that king.

Since he comes out on top, he dates his accession to the throne from the day HE claims he was first king - the death/abdication of the one before him. If he'd lost, the history books would record that some other person had been King from 1634, been challenged by Christian the Pretender, and beaten him off.

This sort of thing happens a lot. Some old guy dies, four different people all claim to be his successor - two of them get crowned by different archbishops - civil war - after the dust settles, one formally takes the throne, but dates his reign right back to the first day he claimed it.
 

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The thing is that Kristian II (the Good) had been driven away by a revolt among the nobility in 1523, but he wasn't dead. The king who came after, Fredrik I, died in 1534 and a new king was elected, Kristian III, who was duke of Holstein. Kristian II had been popular among peasants and bourgois (hence the Good). The lower classes didn't accept Kristian III as king so Kristian II saw his chance to come back. He was helped by the hanseatic city of Lübeck and a civil war followed until 1536 when the Lübeckers had to accept that the war was lost. Kristian III got some help from Gustav Vasa of Sweden (who disliked Kristian II very much, he has always been known as Kristian the Tyrant in Swedish history books) and returned the favour later in the Dacke feud in 1542-43. The reason that the war has been named the 'Count feud' is that the troops from Lübeck were led by count Kristoffer of Oldenburg.

My source for this information is "Skånes historia" by the author Sten Skansjö.
 

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Originally posted by Heyesey


Since he comes out on top, he dates his accession to the throne from the day HE claims he was first king - the death/abdication of the one before him. If he'd lost, the history books would record that some other person had been King from 1634, been challenged by Christian the Pretender, and beaten him off.

This sort of thing happens a lot. Some old guy dies, four different people all claim to be his successor - two of them get crowned by different archbishops - civil war - after the dust settles, one formally takes the throne, but dates his reign right back to the first day he claimed it.

I realise all that. My point is that "trait" means "characteristic". So things like peaceful, aggressive, insane, would count as traits. But the method by which a king got to the throne is not a trait of his. Does Henry VIII have a trait of "peaceful inheritance" ?
 

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Originally posted by AndrewT


I realise all that. My point is that "trait" means "characteristic". So things like peaceful, aggressive, insane, would count as traits. But the method by which a king got to the throne is not a trait of his. Does Henry VIII have a trait of "peaceful inheritance" ?

'Grevefejden' is a trait of Kristian III in that it describes the first two years of his reign. 'Peaceful inheritance' describes the manner in which Henry VIII came to the throne but has no bearing on the rest of his kingship.