Moments that make you go "What?!"
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Meldorian said:
Having the reverse happen made for a very wild ride. I had just formed the the Mughal Empire from Vijayanagar. Almost immediately Ming asks for a Royal Marrige. I am usually careful with who I marry but I was starting to bump into them on my western border ( Yes, I mean Western) so I figure pumping up the relations wouldn't hurt since they were now three to four times my size. Well one month later I inherited Ming. Needless to pretty much the next 200 years was an endless string of BB wars with everyone who knew I existed.
Zarine said:
I am HRE. There are 3 other states in it the empire and they aren't burgundy, but burgundy has quite a many provinces in the empire. But I bet The Ottoman Empire wasn't part of HRE when they were running around in Austria. Really ruins this game I'm playing.
Marvek said:
To add to my comments, in the same game where Norway has largely taken over the Caribbean, and I have been consistenly elected HRE, another totally unrelated WOW has happened.
Crete inherited Muscovy.
By this time (1680's) Novgorod is far stronger than Muscovy was, so Crete didn't inherit much. But, one of my "back door neighbors" now as Norway is the Mediterranean island of Crete!
not if the Timurids colonized down there, say that they sent one colonist down there that settled successfully then they could have gotten a border dispute event that gave them cores down thereTem_Probe said:
Another "What?" moment was when I started with Castille, immediatly I received military alliance from Inca! LOL!
France and Lithuania
Playing as a war-mad Scotland taking over England and Ireland, I noticed France had inherited Lithuania, around 1460 or so. I didn't think much of it at the time until I started to smack France around.
Right now, around 1600, I've taken every bit of Burgundy and modern-day France, plus bits of Germany and Spain, (along with 95% of the New World) but I can't take Ile-de-France... because France not only has Lithuania, but has expanded it significantly, grabbing Poland and Muscowy and most of the T. Order, as well as preventing Kazan from linking up its conquests.
I don't want Lithuania at all. I could invade through Prussia and take it all, but the BB hit would sink me, especially since France just took out the Golden Horde. In other words, the court in Paris is land-locked and waist-deep in Scottish lands for the foreseeable future.
There should be some way to force-annex a capital that is nowhere near any other owned provinces - as is, I've occupied it at least 6 times in various wars.
Playing as a war-mad Scotland taking over England and Ireland, I noticed France had inherited Lithuania, around 1460 or so. I didn't think much of it at the time until I started to smack France around.
Right now, around 1600, I've taken every bit of Burgundy and modern-day France, plus bits of Germany and Spain, (along with 95% of the New World) but I can't take Ile-de-France... because France not only has Lithuania, but has expanded it significantly, grabbing Poland and Muscowy and most of the T. Order, as well as preventing Kazan from linking up its conquests.
I don't want Lithuania at all. I could invade through Prussia and take it all, but the BB hit would sink me, especially since France just took out the Golden Horde. In other words, the court in Paris is land-locked and waist-deep in Scottish lands for the foreseeable future.
There should be some way to force-annex a capital that is nowhere near any other owned provinces - as is, I've occupied it at least 6 times in various wars.
Playing as Germany, I diploannexed Genoa. What I didn't know at the time was that Genoa was sending a colonist to the American West Coast.
The colonist succeeded, and Genoa was reborn as a colony of 100. Many people have seen this - it is a known bug - so no big deal, right?
Well, this is where things got interesting.
Several years after this happened I got a core on the colony, but as I was busy elsewhere I did not bother to do anything about it. Native attacks had reduced the colony to a population of just 2 people, so I figured that Genoa was hardly worth worrying about. I expected the natives to finish them off sooner or later.
A few months passed, and then suddenly I see the following message:
"My lord, Genoa has declared war on us."
When I went to look at the situation, I discovered that Genoa had built three brigades of infantry. Interesting trick, considering the colony consisted of just two people, and you cannot hire mercs in a colony.
Genoa immediately offered to surrender cores that it had on my territories, but I refused because I wanted to wipe out their colony and build a city there myself. That turned out to be a big mistake. Once I destroyed Genoa's colony, I could not end the war with them because they no longer existed on the map. I had to edit the save file to end the war.
That was, without a doubt, my biggest "what?!" moment in EU3.
[And yes, I did report this in the bug forum.]
The colonist succeeded, and Genoa was reborn as a colony of 100. Many people have seen this - it is a known bug - so no big deal, right?
Well, this is where things got interesting.
Several years after this happened I got a core on the colony, but as I was busy elsewhere I did not bother to do anything about it. Native attacks had reduced the colony to a population of just 2 people, so I figured that Genoa was hardly worth worrying about. I expected the natives to finish them off sooner or later.
A few months passed, and then suddenly I see the following message:
"My lord, Genoa has declared war on us."
When I went to look at the situation, I discovered that Genoa had built three brigades of infantry. Interesting trick, considering the colony consisted of just two people, and you cannot hire mercs in a colony.
Genoa immediately offered to surrender cores that it had on my territories, but I refused because I wanted to wipe out their colony and build a city there myself. That turned out to be a big mistake. Once I destroyed Genoa's colony, I could not end the war with them because they no longer existed on the map. I had to edit the save file to end the war.
That was, without a doubt, my biggest "what?!" moment in EU3.
[And yes, I did report this in the bug forum.]
corporateslave said:
Ghosts do not forgive us, they haunt. Those 2 lost souls were going to turn your entire population against you in a revolution; your government would have fallen, and only then would the war have ended.
Genoese robot attack! A similar thing happened to me in EU2, as a trading post of 30 people managed to turn itself into a several thousand strong army of rebels.corporateslave said:
I applaud Paradox's attention to detail. Look! They even included Atheists.
More of a moment that made me go "&#%$!" than "What?!" was a series of wars I had as Tuscany. Modena was my vassal, but the chance of Modena accepting annexation at this point was "unlikely". So, to up my prestige and pass some time, I declared war on Genoa, whose ally I soon found out was Venice. This was around 1465 or so, so I had already annexed a few of the surrounding one-province nations. No biggie, I could take Genoa and Venice on with my ally Modena. I was right. The only way I got peace, though, was by annexing Corsica and two of Venice's territories on the peninsula.
That war lasted about two years or so, and had drained me of all of my manpower just to subdue the Venetian army. Here's where the "&#%$!" moment comes in-- with 0 manpower left, a drained treasury, and a couple of provinces with a medium probability of rebellion, Aragon, along with her allies of Flanders (Calais rebelled earlier) and Austria (oh crap) declared war on me mere days after the peace with Genoa and Venice was sorted out. I sent almost all of my army south to defend my border with Aragon (who had previously annexed part of Sicily), but sent a small force to Corisica and another to the east coast to ward off any possible Austrian landing. I manged to hold off the Aragonese for four years, even capturing Corisica and defeating two of her armies and the whole time I still had 0 manpower to get more troops. And those infernal Aragonese would not give up for anything! I controlled one of their provinces, had defeated all of their advances, and yet those dagblasted Aragonese would not surrender! They eventually accepted an offer of 25 ducats from me for peace, sending me into debt and forcing me to take a loan.
And that's when the allied powers of Sicily and Savoy declared war on me.
sdmaturin said:In other words, the court in Paris is land-locked and waist-deep in Scottish lands for the foreseeable future.
Nice moment to move the capital.
I hate, when in a battle, I get the message..
"You've lost.. blah blah blah.. We've lost 900 of our 2000 soldiers. The enemy lost 0 of their 2000 soldiers."
How does that happen? Someone had to have died on their side
"You've lost.. blah blah blah.. We've lost 900 of our 2000 soldiers. The enemy lost 0 of their 2000 soldiers."
How does that happen? Someone had to have died on their side
Ofaloaf said:
I applaud Paradox's attention to detail. Look! They even included Atheists.
Hey, wait a second - that image looks suspiciously similar to the image that looks suspiciously similar to Pacman.
As Brandenburg I annexed Hamburg (needed the territory to further my Big Mac research) a month and a half later someone ordered them to upgrade their fortress to level 2. Check the treasury - yep, still only 20 ducats in there. Maybe some wealthy noble decided to donate an upgrade?
I just had a "wtf" moment -- playing as Persia, had diploannexed the
Ottoman Empire 30 years or so ago, triggering the BadBoy wars...in
between rounds of everyone declaring war on me, I was doing the usual
"round up the scattered fleets and armies", to reorganize...when I saw an
orange crescent moon retreating from the city of Venice....Austria had
annexed Venice a while before....and apparently while I wasn't watching,
Venice and Istria revolted from Austria and became, of all things...the
Ottomans :wacko:
I just may have to annex them twice in one game
Ottoman Empire 30 years or so ago, triggering the BadBoy wars...in
between rounds of everyone declaring war on me, I was doing the usual
"round up the scattered fleets and armies", to reorganize...when I saw an
orange crescent moon retreating from the city of Venice....Austria had
annexed Venice a while before....and apparently while I wasn't watching,
Venice and Istria revolted from Austria and became, of all things...the
Ottomans :wacko:
I just may have to annex them twice in one game
In my current Austrian 1453 game, I have a 200 year old general. One of my earlier kings led my armies on the field and ( my nearest guess ) he died in office of natural causes while in a battle. As a result I lost my king AND his name in my general list, but he ( and his rather impressive stats of almost all 3 across the board ) survives today as the leader of the same army for over 200 years. On the anniversary of his 200th year commanding the same army, I renamed it the "Dread King's Zombie Army" in recognition of his necromantic support of the empire.
Started as Muscowy, became Russia.
Then, Bradenburg had revolutions and... Muscowy got independence from Bradenburg
Then, Bradenburg had revolutions and... Muscowy got independence from Bradenburg
Having a succession war with Aragon over Portugal (both were my Allies). At the end I won with 100 warscore but settled for 2 provinces in Spain.
Not very odd I know.
The odd thing was we remained Allies throughout the war and I could see all their troop movements becasue of this!
Not very odd I know.
The odd thing was we remained Allies throughout the war and I could see all their troop movements becasue of this!