Modernization, not Westernization

[peenerz]

Hey guys, I looked all over for this but I can't find an actual proposal as simple as mine.

EU:IV starts during the rise of Europe, but it allows you to play as other non-Western nations, such as the Ming and the Ottomans. I get that you would have to keep up with technology, but what if you prevent Europe from rising, and instead dominate the world yourself? Doesn't make too much sense to "Westernize", which means adopting almost all things Western. Why abandon your culture, values, traditions, especially since you're winning, for another just to keep up with technology?

What I propose is simple: rename "Westernize" to "Modernize". I know that westernizing is historically accurate, but in a game where even Ryukyu can take over the world by 1800, I think that this doesn't matter too much. This change would have no effect on gameplay; it is merely "aesthetic" and for immersion.

 

[NorwegianGamer]

I think it's called "Westernize" because EUIV kinda follows history. Atleast to some extent. I may be wrong though.

Not bad suggestion though.

 

[peenerz]

Yeah I know, but it doesn't affect gameplay mechanics at all. And as I said "modernize" can be vaguely interpreted as "westernize" while vise versa, not really.

 

[Voldurak78]

If you were actual capable of surpassing Europe in technology with a non-western tech group that would be a good change, but unfortunately you can't.

 

[peenerz]

If you were actual capable of surpassing Europe in technology with a non-western tech group that would be a good change, but unfortunately you can't.

Explain why western culture has to be adopted to keep up with technology? Such as clothing and art? Sure adopt superior Western technology but why are there events that talk about throwing out every other aspect of culture?

 

[Voldurak78]

I don't think Westernization in-game involve any culture or tradition adoption, I just said that since you can't surpass westerners in technology we don't need to rename it to Modernization.

 

[peenerz]

I don't think Westernization in-game involve any culture or tradition adoption, I just said that since you can't surpass westerners in technology we don't need to rename it to Modernization.

It does, I had an event that said my nation's artists were worried that the nation's culture will be eradicated due to westernization

 

[Republic of Mercury]

It does, I had an event that said my nation's artists were worried that the nation's culture will be eradicated due to westernization

Just because they were worried that it would happen doesn't mean that it actually happened.