I don't have work tomorrow, I'll finish and post the tag list!Mezzo said:
Mezzo, you know that your sig is kinda big, right? You can get in trouble for that.... I did....
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Mezzo, you know that your sig is kinda big, right? You can get in trouble for that.... I did....
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I would suggest light blue, like Bavaria for West Germany, and brown like Württemberg for East Germany... oh... and I would like the Soviet Union to be red like Denmark.Mezzo said:
I though we decided with Rebel-Scum Black!Sute]{h said:I would suggest light blue, like Bavaria for West Germany, and brown like Württemberg for East Germany... oh... and I would like the Soviet Union to be red like Denmark.
Heres the screenshot:
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Than what color would the Rebels be? Red?
Ive got North Africa Now but Ill show it later
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Than what color would the Rebels be? Red?
Ive got North Africa Now but Ill show it later
No black Sovjet please... lets keep the rebel scum black. I want red Sovjet.Mezzo said:
Argh... bmp...
:rofl:
I am leaving for Chicago tomorrow, everyone who reads this, PM to remind me to post the finalized tag list on monday, I will forget (being too busy flirting with everything that has boobs and a p**** on the bus on the way there )
I am easily side-tracked
I should be back on Monday.
Don't change too much while I am gone....
)I am easily side-tracked
I should be back on Monday.
Don't change too much while I am gone....
Well, I mostly just removed never-going to happen revolters, like the Virgin Islands and Columbia; I spared Puerto Rico after consulting my inner-demons.
Nextly, the Rebel Scum, should remain the Rebel Scum. Remember, governments don't see rebels in their own countries as "Revolutionaries" but "Those damned rock-throwers"
Sicily is for the Commie-Revolution of Italy I talked about earlier.
Macht spaß!
Edit: Hawai'i added and Greenland's name fixed, Navarra now Euskadi; Turko-Cypriots now North Cyprus
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Also what if The USA were to lose the cold war would they break up, just become communist, or just become weaker? also maybe Syria and India's tag could be switched
IND;India
BAS;Syria
IND;India
BAS;Syria
Speaking of the cold war in a term of war is ludicrous.
the only way that the USA would have "lost" a cold-war would be in the case of total war against USSR. There would be no-way that Western Europe would have become communist at all. So there is no talking about "losing" the cold war. The only way that communist ideology would "take" over WE was a forceful military implementation of it.
The theory about domino states is also untrue. Eventually all former communist countries would turn to capitalist ways. Look at China and Vietnam nowadays. But of course that is only "because" that the West have won...
However empirical studies have shown that communist regimes COULD not satisfy the population needs as opposed to westernized liberal democracies.
The case that USA splits off after a Soviet "victory" in the cold war is therefore unthinkable. Because there COULD be no Soviet victory without a war of annexation.
the only way that the USA would have "lost" a cold-war would be in the case of total war against USSR. There would be no-way that Western Europe would have become communist at all. So there is no talking about "losing" the cold war. The only way that communist ideology would "take" over WE was a forceful military implementation of it.
The theory about domino states is also untrue. Eventually all former communist countries would turn to capitalist ways. Look at China and Vietnam nowadays. But of course that is only "because" that the West have won...
However empirical studies have shown that communist regimes COULD not satisfy the population needs as opposed to westernized liberal democracies.
The case that USA splits off after a Soviet "victory" in the cold war is therefore unthinkable. Because there COULD be no Soviet victory without a war of annexation.
Regarding the tag-list...
Why is Greendland on the list? (it is even spelled wrong)
Also there ougtha be added a European Union onto the list. Imagine that the European integration would have run faster than it has been going. Imagine that Denmark and GB and all those other sceptical transatlantic states had not been invited into the Union? Perhaps we would then in 1992 have had a central-western European state consisting of France, Germany, Holland, Belgium, Luxembourg, Italy, Spain and Portugal? Is it not impossible if we take into account the importance of the oil crisis for the European economical development. With no oil crisis in 1973 and no invitation to euro-sceptical countries, economical integration in the union would have taken astride much faster, therefore enabling a faster spill-over effect to the political and social areas.
Why is Greendland on the list? (it is even spelled wrong)
Also there ougtha be added a European Union onto the list. Imagine that the European integration would have run faster than it has been going. Imagine that Denmark and GB and all those other sceptical transatlantic states had not been invited into the Union? Perhaps we would then in 1992 have had a central-western European state consisting of France, Germany, Holland, Belgium, Luxembourg, Italy, Spain and Portugal? Is it not impossible if we take into account the importance of the oil crisis for the European economical development. With no oil crisis in 1973 and no invitation to euro-sceptical countries, economical integration in the union would have taken astride much faster, therefore enabling a faster spill-over effect to the political and social areas.
Let me set precident;
If you havne't been working on this for, what three, four months now; don't barge in and tell us how to do this. (The word "ludicrous" set me off)
Secondly, I didn't write the Tag list, I just made changes; yes Greenland is wrong;I noticed, but spelling isn't our top priority now. It is on the list, because it boarders on autonimous and semi-autonimous; but mainly so the US has military access to Greenland but not all of Denmark.
Nextly, we have already said there will be no UN or EU states, though we are looking into "Ghost States." Alliances will do fine. Let me refer you to post #269, in reference to post #268.
Now, about the cold war, true it was not a war; and true we use the terms "won" and "lost" liberally, but it game terms that is what happened.
Mezzo,
Yes, for the outcome of the cold war, the USA should become more socalistic, maybe a few break-aways.... but I'm looking at most 3rd world nations joining Commintern and Europe moving in-line with the Commies. The USA might just loose some pacific territory and a whole lotta prestige; but the USSR is the only one with any chance of major melt down....
Sure, switch India and Syria; sounds like a good idea for ease of editing.
I added Hawai'i and fixed Greenland's name.
If you havne't been working on this for, what three, four months now; don't barge in and tell us how to do this. (The word "ludicrous" set me off)
Secondly, I didn't write the Tag list, I just made changes; yes Greenland is wrong;I noticed, but spelling isn't our top priority now. It is on the list, because it boarders on autonimous and semi-autonimous; but mainly so the US has military access to Greenland but not all of Denmark.
Nextly, we have already said there will be no UN or EU states, though we are looking into "Ghost States." Alliances will do fine. Let me refer you to post #269, in reference to post #268.
Now, about the cold war, true it was not a war; and true we use the terms "won" and "lost" liberally, but it game terms that is what happened.
Mezzo,
Yes, for the outcome of the cold war, the USA should become more socalistic, maybe a few break-aways.... but I'm looking at most 3rd world nations joining Commintern and Europe moving in-line with the Commies. The USA might just loose some pacific territory and a whole lotta prestige; but the USSR is the only one with any chance of major melt down....
Sure, switch India and Syria; sounds like a good idea for ease of editing.
I added Hawai'i and fixed Greenland's name.
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isnt the whole point of a mod that includes the cold war is so that you (the player) can have a war which would mean that the usa or ussr may win?
clamp2004: i know this is pointless but Great Britain is not a member state of the EU the 'United Kingdom of Great Britian and Northern Ireleand - UK' is, there is a difference
clamp2004: i know this is pointless but Great Britain is not a member state of the EU the 'United Kingdom of Great Britian and Northern Ireleand - UK' is, there is a difference
Mr. C. just what I had in mind, I think it would be fun to be the USSR and atleast try to "win" the cold war instead of definetly losing and breaking up what if The USA and the USSR went to war with eachother in the Cuban Missile Crisis western Europe could go to war with Eastern and Nuclear war could erupt.Mr. Capiatlist said:
Also should we use HOI 2 sprites and sounds
My girl loves it tooclamp2004 said:
No hard feelings, but I am a tad pissy when people tell me what to do in the wrong tone....
I don't have HoI2, so sprites are out of my league. I have sceen them though, and there are no onjections on my behalf.
Actually I agree with Clamp2004. A Greenland tag is IMHO not needed. I don't think Greenland would add much gameplay-wise. I would rather have Denmark grant the US military access. I know the US would then be able to place units in Denmark proper, but I fail to see why that would be a problem. During the Cold War Denmark would properly have accepted an American presence on Danish soil as long as they didn't bring nuclear weaponry. Further it wont present a tactical exploit, since the US will have military access in West Germany, which is far more useful... the military access in Denmark will properly not be used for anything but troops in Greenland if at all. Further an independent Greenland isn't realistic within this timeframe, not to mention the fact that Greenlandian citizens actually gets to vote in Danish parlementary elections.
Could we make the list alphabetical either by country names or tag?
North & South Vietnam has been spelled wrong.
I would like to add: Palestine (revolter), Kurdistan (revolter - mostly exciting because they overlap with so many other countries and would be a major middeleastern player if they managed to secure their independence), Cyprus and North Cyprus. Also someone voiced having a basque revolter nation (Euskadi or something like that, I can't remember how it is spelled), which I think is a good idea, if we have tags to spare. Otherwise it is easily removed later.
What is the purpose of: North Ireland (wouldn't these revolters simply join Ireland?), South Vietnam (shouldn't they simply be Vietnam?), Kaliningrad?, Hawaii (they are a part of the US within the entire timeframe of the game right?)
Could we make the list alphabetical either by country names or tag?
North & South Vietnam has been spelled wrong.
I would like to add: Palestine (revolter), Kurdistan (revolter - mostly exciting because they overlap with so many other countries and would be a major middeleastern player if they managed to secure their independence), Cyprus and North Cyprus. Also someone voiced having a basque revolter nation (Euskadi or something like that, I can't remember how it is spelled), which I think is a good idea, if we have tags to spare. Otherwise it is easily removed later.
What is the purpose of: North Ireland (wouldn't these revolters simply join Ireland?), South Vietnam (shouldn't they simply be Vietnam?), Kaliningrad?, Hawaii (they are a part of the US within the entire timeframe of the game right?)
Kaliningrad and Hawai'i are always voicing support for independence; though both groups are vast minorities.Sute]{h said:
No, the tags are in the order they are inserted into the game....
I will fix spelling mistakes. Drop "Vietnam" just have Republic of Vietnam and Communist Vietnam.
Added Navarra (Navarre)
Palestein + Kurdistan + Turko-Cypriots