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It is very hard and stupid. Yes i'm being bluntly honest and will prolly get booted again from the forum.
Stellaris is just an updating of the old game done by StarDock called Galactic Civilizations back in around 2000. It was a turn based game with the same STUPIDLY designed 1. 1. Technology set up. It also had the same STUPID sayings that we get to use when we first are spoken to by an alien species after THEY LEARN OUR LANGUAGE! That's a ludacrist statement to begin with. If you LEARN someone's language, then you learn how NOT to offend them in the first place. NOT this game.
2. The stupid idea that the human player can only support only 5 provinces is super stupid and definitely reminiscent of the creators great game CK. BUT outer space ISN'T CK. IT NEVER WILL BE.,
3. There Diplomacy screen is total crap. it's about as usefull as the 16 yr concept of space diplomacy in Galactic Civilizations was.
They really could have done a MUCH better job of creating a real space game than this. Their concept of land combat is directly from the 16 yr old Galactic Civilizations. And that sucked so bad; it's not funny.
But then i've only played Stellaris for 20 hours. It's a very crappy game, but if i correct about where they got their source material... "Galactic Civilizations" and seeing as they are very familiar with the society of europe circa for the Crusader kings... It is quite understandable how Stellaris is like it is.
The game is set up so that the "Strongest" forms of government to win this game are despotic stupid ones that would thrive in the Crusader kings era of Europe in the last millennium. The political ideas of federation and democracies are weak things in the game. Which is very short sighted for the game developers.
Most space rts games only do space conflict. One of the best in recent years is Sins of a Solar Empire. That game did a very good job for the Space side of a game. It's land side is useless as a battle scenario.
The ONLY space rts game that did equal time to space combat and land combat is lucas arts Star Wars Empire at War and the expansion Forces of Corruption. ONLY in that game did you have the same level of detail for both space and land combat!
And YES, i've been playing a great many sci fi games over the past 20 damn years. SO yes i'm an expert on what is and isn't a good rts space game.
It anyone doesn't like my bluntness... sorry for that, kinda
Cheers enjoy the summer!!!
DOn't give up nova! I will be back to do the other chain event if you want! I will finish exams tomorrow (for a month)
It is very hard and stupid. Yes i'm being bluntly honest and will prolly get booted again from the forum.
Stellaris is just an updating of the old game done by StarDock called Galactic Civilizations back in around 2000. It was a turn based game with the same STUPIDLY designed 1. 1. Technology set up. It also had the same STUPID sayings that we get to use when we first are spoken to by an alien species after THEY LEARN OUR LANGUAGE! That's a ludacrist statement to begin with. If you LEARN someone's language, then you learn how NOT to offend them in the first place. NOT this game.
2. The stupid idea that the human player can only support only 5 provinces is super stupid and definitely reminiscent of the creators great game CK. BUT outer space ISN'T CK. IT NEVER WILL BE.,
3. There Diplomacy screen is total crap. it's about as usefull as the 16 yr concept of space diplomacy in Galactic Civilizations was.
They really could have done a MUCH better job of creating a real space game than this. Their concept of land combat is directly from the 16 yr old Galactic Civilizations. And that sucked so bad; it's not funny.
But then i've only played Stellaris for 20 hours. It's a very crappy game, but if i correct about where they got their source material... "Galactic Civilizations" and seeing as they are very familiar with the society of europe circa for the Crusader kings... It is quite understandable how Stellaris is like it is.
The game is set up so that the "Strongest" forms of government to win this game are despotic stupid ones that would thrive in the Crusader kings era of Europe in the last millennium. The political ideas of federation and democracies are weak things in the game. Which is very short sighted for the game developers.
Most space rts games only do space conflict. One of the best in recent years is Sins of a Solar Empire. That game did a very good job for the Space side of a game. It's land side is useless as a battle scenario.
The ONLY space rts game that did equal time to space combat and land combat is lucas arts Star Wars Empire at War and the expansion Forces of Corruption. ONLY in that game did you have the same level of detail for both space and land combat!
And YES, i've been playing a great many sci fi games over the past 20 damn years. SO yes i'm an expert on what is and isn't a good rts space game.
It anyone doesn't like my bluntness... sorry for that, kinda
Stellaris is my first space game, well the first I have spent more than 1 hour playing. I have 33 hours so far. I have to bow to your experience, but I still think Stellaris has more depth and this depth will make the game better over time.
Yes, Gal Civ 2, I have it, played 1 hour... Cannot make a connection. Well back then, I'm trying harder with Stellaris.
Hello Pippo, I hope your exams are going well.
Yes I have started thinking of doing some more work on the Putin mod. I just needed to take a break and re-energise.
Stellaris is not perfect, but it has tremendous potential within the game and also with the mods which will manifest in the coming years. I also played a lot with it recently and it is true that there are many flaws, but also great ideas.
I mean I had an allied empire and we both attacked a third, which was at war with a fourth. First we took a planet from him, than crushed a smaller fleet and than suddenly they wanted peace and practically giving away all its territories and planets for me. I agreed immediately, but than I was stunned. Two of the planets population was starving, and later all of them had strikes and wanted freedom as a vassal state. I mean it is brilliant even if I don't think the AI wanted it to happen like this. First they sign the peace and surrender saving their population, and industry, but also ending the war against the fourth empire. Than the attackers need to do something with their starvation. So with time they are getting stronger again, and they are ready to break away. They practically withstood the times of war with political schemes. I don't know any other game with something like this. Which nation would offer annexation in a different game?
I mean I had an allied empire and we both attacked a third, which was at war with a fourth. First we took a planet from him, than crushed a smaller fleet and than suddenly they wanted peace and practically giving away all its territories and planets for me. I agreed immediately, but than I was stunned. Two of the planets population was starving, and later all of them had strikes and wanted freedom as a vassal state. I mean it is brilliant even if I don't think the AI wanted it to happen like this. First they sign the peace and surrender saving their population, and industry, but also ending the war against the fourth empire. Than the attackers need to do something with their starvation. So with time they are getting stronger again, and they are ready to break away. They practically withstood the times of war with political schemes. I don't know any other game with something like this. Which nation would offer annexation in a different game?
I start a new game with the latest version: before playing, I have disabled the missile tech(personal preference), no unit missiles on the map,and the events 796034-796035-796036-796037-796038(went with decline in.. can choose to intervene) db\event\putin\isis isn't active, the mod run well, no lag at the end of the day.these events are not useful. I play in the year 2018 with hundred and hundred of units on the map .....
cheers.
I checked by doing the same as you did, and yes it does run better.
I'll now go and review how I set up isis to see if that is causing problems. I did set them up as a kind of perpetual country. Cheers
Nova, you should try and pick up SINS rebellion for cheap. That is a real space war game. Stellaris is EU or CK in space. meaning it uses the same old fashioned political ideas that are used in those games. meaning feudal concepts of loosing a war and 17th century concepts like in EU.
Space war and exploration has to have at the least the concepts of politics that we have now-a-days on this planet. and YOU can't expand in a space game without being able to research all the different types of planets so you can colonize them. I've tried to explain that to the people over in the stellaris forum, but they just don't understand that the game isn't their beloved period pieces like CK or EU.
A randomly generated tech system WONT work for the human player when that human player needs to know how to colonize desert, arid, arctic or ocean/tropical worlds. at the very least those worlds have to be able to be hard researched. All the rest of their research can be randomized. But being able to colonize a world is paramount to any players success.
Maybe someone will find the cheats for the different planet researches and then i'll be happy. the game does have some other serious flaws in it. Like if i shut off the "Stronger AI's" and i'm just playing the game and researching what i get. All of a sudden there will be a few much stronger AI organizations just pop up in full size taking a quarter of the available map with them. Then there is the case where there is a batch of neutral systems that only i've explored but all of a sudden they are annexed without the space fortresses that i need to build to claim those areas. Another AI goes and takes 4-8 of those neutral worlds.
Either they didn't have any good testers or their testers thought they were testing EU or CK. space is very different.
But glad you're back with Putin. Can't wait for version 6 to come out
Space war and exploration has to have at the least the concepts of politics that we have now-a-days on this planet. and YOU can't expand in a space game without being able to research all the different types of planets so you can colonize them. I've tried to explain that to the people over in the stellaris forum, but they just don't understand that the game isn't their beloved period pieces like CK or EU.
A randomly generated tech system WONT work for the human player when that human player needs to know how to colonize desert, arid, arctic or ocean/tropical worlds. at the very least those worlds have to be able to be hard researched. All the rest of their research can be randomized. But being able to colonize a world is paramount to any players success.
Maybe someone will find the cheats for the different planet researches and then i'll be happy. the game does have some other serious flaws in it. Like if i shut off the "Stronger AI's" and i'm just playing the game and researching what i get. All of a sudden there will be a few much stronger AI organizations just pop up in full size taking a quarter of the available map with them. Then there is the case where there is a batch of neutral systems that only i've explored but all of a sudden they are annexed without the space fortresses that i need to build to claim those areas. Another AI goes and takes 4-8 of those neutral worlds.
Either they didn't have any good testers or their testers thought they were testing EU or CK. space is very different.
But glad you're back with Putin. Can't wait for version 6 to come out
Nova, you should try and pick up SINS rebellion for cheap. That is a real space war game. Stellaris is EU or CK in space. meaning it uses the same old fashioned political ideas that are used in those games. meaning feudal concepts of loosing a war and 17th century concepts like in EU.
Space war and exploration has to have at the least the concepts of politics that we have now-a-days on this planet. and YOU can't expand in a space game without being able to research all the different types of planets so you can colonize them. I've tried to explain that to the people over in the stellaris forum, but they just don't understand that the game isn't their beloved period pieces like CK or EU.
A randomly generated tech system WONT work for the human player when that human player needs to know how to colonize desert, arid, arctic or ocean/tropical worlds. at the very least those worlds have to be able to be hard researched. All the rest of their research can be randomized. But being able to colonize a world is paramount to any players success.
Maybe someone will find the cheats for the different planet researches and then i'll be happy. the game does have some other serious flaws in it. Like if i shut off the "Stronger AI's" and i'm just playing the game and researching what i get. All of a sudden there will be a few much stronger AI organizations just pop up in full size taking a quarter of the available map with them. Then there is the case where there is a batch of neutral systems that only i've explored but all of a sudden they are annexed without the space fortresses that i need to build to claim those areas. Another AI goes and takes 4-8 of those neutral worlds.
Either they didn't have any good testers or their testers thought they were testing EU or CK. space is very different.
But glad you're back with Putin. Can't wait for version 6 to come out
Yeah, I did a bit of modding earlier, adding forks in previous events, so new stuff happens, probably more realistic stuff happens if I'm honest.
And played a bit more of Stellaris too.
Will be doing a new addition ... the Russia vs EU war caused by the US constantly pushing against RUS and breaking agreements and treaties etc etc. I wonder does Obama wants a war in Europe before Trump arrives in the White House?
I'm going to try to do something I wanted to do before, but didn't get time for. A first strike where the AI attacks you (if you play as an EU country) with nukes. Probably what will happen later this year or next? What I mean is, you are playing, something happens, a war starts, and the AI actually fires nukes at you... I mean you see them coming and flying towards YOU!
Either way, I'm back modding the Putin mod. Syria takes a backseat as the mod turns towards bigger wars.
Oh I'm happy you comeback and I'm happy you found the mod run better without missiles and isis events.In hope you are plenty of insperation after
your break.
Cheers.
Sorry I was not clear in what I wrote. I kept the missiles. I stopped the persistent events you pointed out were causing the lag. Thanks for that.
nope, it's been decided now. Stellaris is NOT a space game. it's just stupid EU/CK in space. When you conquer a species or system, YOU don't leave behind any of that species that can revolt. But in this fucked up game you DO have to put up with that crap the the ways to remedy it is still backwards 17th century (EU) thinking.
But that's cool. SO what if paradox isn't a smart company to produce a good space rts game and calling it a "Grand Strategy Game" ??? whatever. if you think "grand Strategy is playing by the outdated attributes of 17th century thinking. Then please be my guest in that.
But that's cool. SO what if paradox isn't a smart company to produce a good space rts game and calling it a "Grand Strategy Game" ??? whatever. if you think "grand Strategy is playing by the outdated attributes of 17th century thinking. Then please be my guest in that.
It appears that Iran and Hezbollah have suffered a big defeat in Syria. They were defeated by forces supported by Turkey and Saudi Arabia, which supplied Milan anti tank missiles to them. See debkafile for the story.
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Hey, glad to see this mod isn't dead! For my part I've gotten back to work on the promised Rubio and Kasich paths, and actually finished the former. I've attached everything to this post:
I've also started work on the Kasich path, but that's still incomplete: so far I've only written his inauguration and SCOTUS pick events.
Lastly, some screenshots of various Rubio events, all following a VP Nikki Haley path, as well as the Kasich inauguration event. Some of Rubio's events would have different or additional choices if Cruz was VP instead. Unfortunately the event pics are so large that they make reading the text difficult, but I was unable to get smaller event pics to work.
As usual, feel free to modify these events however you wish. I hope the X_FURY event flags in particular will make it easy to edit this stuff into a Civil War chain.
Rubio's path includes the following:
-An inauguration event.
-Choosing a SCOTUS Justice to replace Scalia, which will set the trend for Rubio's future picks (all of the remaining incumbent Justices are old enough that they could conceivably retire or die in his term). His choices include: Lorie Skjerven Gildea, the current chief of the Minnesota Supreme Court and a center-right judge; either Ted Cruz, if Cruz wasn't chosen as VP, or Cruz's mentor J. Michael 'Mike' Luttig if he is the VP, both being the hardline right-wing choices; and Sri Srinivasan, a centrist judge that was one of Obama's possible picks for an early Scalia replacement.
-Culture War events dealing with the Supreme Court repealing Roe v. Wade (the abortion decision, struck down with a center or far-right Justice) and Obergefell v. Hodges (the gay marriage decision, only downed by a far-right Justice), or neither (if the centrist Justice is chosen).
-Economic downturn in the middle of 2017. Rubio can either attempt Obama/Bush-style stimuli & bailouts or do nothing in the name of the free market.
-Ramming an 'amnesty' (a path to legalization and citizenship for illegal immigrants) bill through Congress in 2017. Passing it upsets both traditional conservatives and the alt-right, not passing it upsets liberals and the Establishment (fewer immigrant workers to exploit). An option to prevent this will exist if Rubio chose Cruz as his VP.
-Renewing the US Freedom Act in 2019. This is an event for all Presidents: can choose to renew it as-is (the NSA remains powerful but no longer has the authority to collect phone data without a court order), renew it and restore the NSA's phone-data collection authority, or let it expire. However, depending on the President in charge or their chosen VP, some of these options may not be available. In Rubio's case, he can only choose the option to let the Freedom Act expire if he has Cruz as VP, as Cruz is trying to reach out to the Paulite libertarians and/or has a much more sinister purpose in mind (see below).
-Assassination attempts on Rubio by Cruz: if he made Cruz VP but then pissed off the social and economic conservatives by choosing a centrist Justice who won't turn the Culture War around AND trying to intervene in the economy when it crashes in 2017, in late 2019 Cruz will attempt to assassinate him together with some especially radical far-right militia movements. If Rubio renews/strengthens the Freedom Act, the NSA will expose the plot and the FBI kills or arrests the militiamen, forcing Cruz to flee Washington and setting the stage for a civil war where Rubio has the upper hand. On the other hand, if Rubio took a VP Cruz's advice and lets the Freedom Act expire, the NSA will be unable to prevent the plot and Cruz manages to kill Rubio without leaving any particularly damning evidence, which will probably also start a civil war but one where Rubio is obviously too dead to restrain Cruz.
-Rubio assassinated by the Establishment: if Rubio refuses to do their dirty work by opposing both amnesty and the Freedom Act, the Establishment will turn on their 'golden boy' and have him poisoned at a state dinner. This will only happen if his VP is either Nikki Haley or Scott Walker, since even if the Establishment comes to hate the very ground he walks upon they still won't want to make Cruz President.
-A civil war started by the left wing: If Rubio goes too far to the right by appointing both a hard-line Justice to SCOTUS (either Cruz/Luttig) and by refusing to do anything to help the US economy when it flounders in 2017, in late 2019 left-wing agitation reaches the critical mass for a civil war.
-A civil war started by the far-right: If Rubio drifts too far to the left but doesn't make Cruz his VP, instead of the assassination attempt Cruz (who is locked out of the presidential line of succession in this case) will openly incite a right-wing rebellion against him in late 2019.
-The economy starts recovering in 2018/19, if Rubio chose to go down the Bush/Obama path of semi-Keynesian bailouts and stimuli.
The civil war faction event-flags I've used are:
CON_FURY: Representing traditional conservative agitation. Increased by nominating a centrist Justice, intervening in the economy & granting amnesty to illegal immigrants.
LIB_FURY: Representing social liberal & progressive agitation. Increased by nominating right-wing Justices who strike down Roe v. Wade and/or Obergefell v. Hodges, not intervening in the economy and not granting amnesty to illegal immigrants.
LIBR_FURY: Representing libertarian agitation. Increased by renewing or strengthening the Freedom Act in 2019.
ESTB_FURY: Representing Establishment agitation. Increased by not granting amnesty to illegal immigrants and letting the Freedom Act expire in 2019.
ALTR_FURY: Representing alt-right (irreligious far-rightists, ex. Neo-Nazis) agitation. Increased by granting amnesty to illegal immigrants.
I currently have no events for a civil war started by libertarians, the Establishment or the alt-right under Rubio. I think the libertarians & alt-right are too small to try anything on their own (they would rather wait for the larger traditional conservative or liberal factions to start it, then rise up in the ensuing chaos - rising up alone would likely get them destroyed fast) and the Establishment is a fan of Rubio's anyway. Anyway, my idea was that the higher the number of the flags set, the stronger that faction's rebel forces would be (ex. the left-wing rebellion with the LIB_FURY_1, LIB_FURY_2 and LIB_FURY_3 flags set would be stronger than just with LIB_FURY_1 and 2 set).
Rubio can also prevent a civil war (at least one involving broad left/right strokes) without getting assassinated if he carefully balances both wings' preferred policies. He must nominate the CENTER-right Justice who will strike down Roe v. Wade but not Obergefell v. Hodges, which makes the right happy and the left upset but not completely livid; then he must intervene in the failing economy, which appeases the left and angers the right, but not to the point where they're prepared to engage in civil war and/or assassinate him. Lastly he must appease the Establishment at least once, by either passing an amnesty bill or renewing/strengthening the Freedom Act.
-An inauguration event.
-Choosing a SCOTUS Justice to replace Scalia, which will set the trend for Rubio's future picks (all of the remaining incumbent Justices are old enough that they could conceivably retire or die in his term). His choices include: Lorie Skjerven Gildea, the current chief of the Minnesota Supreme Court and a center-right judge; either Ted Cruz, if Cruz wasn't chosen as VP, or Cruz's mentor J. Michael 'Mike' Luttig if he is the VP, both being the hardline right-wing choices; and Sri Srinivasan, a centrist judge that was one of Obama's possible picks for an early Scalia replacement.
-Culture War events dealing with the Supreme Court repealing Roe v. Wade (the abortion decision, struck down with a center or far-right Justice) and Obergefell v. Hodges (the gay marriage decision, only downed by a far-right Justice), or neither (if the centrist Justice is chosen).
-Economic downturn in the middle of 2017. Rubio can either attempt Obama/Bush-style stimuli & bailouts or do nothing in the name of the free market.
-Ramming an 'amnesty' (a path to legalization and citizenship for illegal immigrants) bill through Congress in 2017. Passing it upsets both traditional conservatives and the alt-right, not passing it upsets liberals and the Establishment (fewer immigrant workers to exploit). An option to prevent this will exist if Rubio chose Cruz as his VP.
-Renewing the US Freedom Act in 2019. This is an event for all Presidents: can choose to renew it as-is (the NSA remains powerful but no longer has the authority to collect phone data without a court order), renew it and restore the NSA's phone-data collection authority, or let it expire. However, depending on the President in charge or their chosen VP, some of these options may not be available. In Rubio's case, he can only choose the option to let the Freedom Act expire if he has Cruz as VP, as Cruz is trying to reach out to the Paulite libertarians and/or has a much more sinister purpose in mind (see below).
-Assassination attempts on Rubio by Cruz: if he made Cruz VP but then pissed off the social and economic conservatives by choosing a centrist Justice who won't turn the Culture War around AND trying to intervene in the economy when it crashes in 2017, in late 2019 Cruz will attempt to assassinate him together with some especially radical far-right militia movements. If Rubio renews/strengthens the Freedom Act, the NSA will expose the plot and the FBI kills or arrests the militiamen, forcing Cruz to flee Washington and setting the stage for a civil war where Rubio has the upper hand. On the other hand, if Rubio took a VP Cruz's advice and lets the Freedom Act expire, the NSA will be unable to prevent the plot and Cruz manages to kill Rubio without leaving any particularly damning evidence, which will probably also start a civil war but one where Rubio is obviously too dead to restrain Cruz.
-Rubio assassinated by the Establishment: if Rubio refuses to do their dirty work by opposing both amnesty and the Freedom Act, the Establishment will turn on their 'golden boy' and have him poisoned at a state dinner. This will only happen if his VP is either Nikki Haley or Scott Walker, since even if the Establishment comes to hate the very ground he walks upon they still won't want to make Cruz President.
-A civil war started by the left wing: If Rubio goes too far to the right by appointing both a hard-line Justice to SCOTUS (either Cruz/Luttig) and by refusing to do anything to help the US economy when it flounders in 2017, in late 2019 left-wing agitation reaches the critical mass for a civil war.
-A civil war started by the far-right: If Rubio drifts too far to the left but doesn't make Cruz his VP, instead of the assassination attempt Cruz (who is locked out of the presidential line of succession in this case) will openly incite a right-wing rebellion against him in late 2019.
-The economy starts recovering in 2018/19, if Rubio chose to go down the Bush/Obama path of semi-Keynesian bailouts and stimuli.
The civil war faction event-flags I've used are:
CON_FURY: Representing traditional conservative agitation. Increased by nominating a centrist Justice, intervening in the economy & granting amnesty to illegal immigrants.
LIB_FURY: Representing social liberal & progressive agitation. Increased by nominating right-wing Justices who strike down Roe v. Wade and/or Obergefell v. Hodges, not intervening in the economy and not granting amnesty to illegal immigrants.
LIBR_FURY: Representing libertarian agitation. Increased by renewing or strengthening the Freedom Act in 2019.
ESTB_FURY: Representing Establishment agitation. Increased by not granting amnesty to illegal immigrants and letting the Freedom Act expire in 2019.
ALTR_FURY: Representing alt-right (irreligious far-rightists, ex. Neo-Nazis) agitation. Increased by granting amnesty to illegal immigrants.
I currently have no events for a civil war started by libertarians, the Establishment or the alt-right under Rubio. I think the libertarians & alt-right are too small to try anything on their own (they would rather wait for the larger traditional conservative or liberal factions to start it, then rise up in the ensuing chaos - rising up alone would likely get them destroyed fast) and the Establishment is a fan of Rubio's anyway. Anyway, my idea was that the higher the number of the flags set, the stronger that faction's rebel forces would be (ex. the left-wing rebellion with the LIB_FURY_1, LIB_FURY_2 and LIB_FURY_3 flags set would be stronger than just with LIB_FURY_1 and 2 set).
Rubio can also prevent a civil war (at least one involving broad left/right strokes) without getting assassinated if he carefully balances both wings' preferred policies. He must nominate the CENTER-right Justice who will strike down Roe v. Wade but not Obergefell v. Hodges, which makes the right happy and the left upset but not completely livid; then he must intervene in the failing economy, which appeases the left and angers the right, but not to the point where they're prepared to engage in civil war and/or assassinate him. Lastly he must appease the Establishment at least once, by either passing an amnesty bill or renewing/strengthening the Freedom Act.
I've also started work on the Kasich path, but that's still incomplete: so far I've only written his inauguration and SCOTUS pick events.
Lastly, some screenshots of various Rubio events, all following a VP Nikki Haley path, as well as the Kasich inauguration event. Some of Rubio's events would have different or additional choices if Cruz was VP instead. Unfortunately the event pics are so large that they make reading the text difficult, but I was unable to get smaller event pics to work.
As usual, feel free to modify these events however you wish. I hope the X_FURY event flags in particular will make it easy to edit this stuff into a Civil War chain.
Hey, glad to see this mod isn't dead! For my part I've gotten back to work on the promised Rubio and Kasich paths, and actually finished the former. I've attached everything to this post:
Rubio's path includes the following:
-An inauguration event.
-Choosing a SCOTUS Justice to replace Scalia, which will set the trend for Rubio's future picks (all of the remaining incumbent Justices are old enough that they could conceivably retire or die in his term). His choices include: Lorie Skjerven Gildea, the current chief of the Minnesota Supreme Court and a center-right judge; either Ted Cruz, if Cruz wasn't chosen as VP, or Cruz's mentor J. Michael 'Mike' Luttig if he is the VP, both being the hardline right-wing choices; and Sri Srinivasan, a centrist judge that was one of Obama's possible picks for an early Scalia replacement.
-Culture War events dealing with the Supreme Court repealing Roe v. Wade (the abortion decision, struck down with a center or far-right Justice) and Obergefell v. Hodges (the gay marriage decision, only downed by a far-right Justice), or neither (if the centrist Justice is chosen).
-Economic downturn in the middle of 2017. Rubio can either attempt Obama/Bush-style stimuli & bailouts or do nothing in the name of the free market.
-Ramming an 'amnesty' (a path to legalization and citizenship for illegal immigrants) bill through Congress in 2017. Passing it upsets both traditional conservatives and the alt-right, not passing it upsets liberals and the Establishment (fewer immigrant workers to exploit). An option to prevent this will exist if Rubio chose Cruz as his VP.
-Renewing the US Freedom Act in 2019. This is an event for all Presidents: can choose to renew it as-is (the NSA remains powerful but no longer has the authority to collect phone data without a court order), renew it and restore the NSA's phone-data collection authority, or let it expire. However, depending on the President in charge or their chosen VP, some of these options may not be available. In Rubio's case, he can only choose the option to let the Freedom Act expire if he has Cruz as VP, as Cruz is trying to reach out to the Paulite libertarians and/or has a much more sinister purpose in mind (see below).
-Assassination attempts on Rubio by Cruz: if he made Cruz VP but then pissed off the social and economic conservatives by choosing a centrist Justice who won't turn the Culture War around AND trying to intervene in the economy when it crashes in 2017, in late 2019 Cruz will attempt to assassinate him together with some especially radical far-right militia movements. If Rubio renews/strengthens the Freedom Act, the NSA will expose the plot and the FBI kills or arrests the militiamen, forcing Cruz to flee Washington and setting the stage for a civil war where Rubio has the upper hand. On the other hand, if Rubio took a VP Cruz's advice and lets the Freedom Act expire, the NSA will be unable to prevent the plot and Cruz manages to kill Rubio without leaving any particularly damning evidence, which will probably also start a civil war but one where Rubio is obviously too dead to restrain Cruz.
-Rubio assassinated by the Establishment: if Rubio refuses to do their dirty work by opposing both amnesty and the Freedom Act, the Establishment will turn on their 'golden boy' and have him poisoned at a state dinner. This will only happen if his VP is either Nikki Haley or Scott Walker, since even if the Establishment comes to hate the very ground he walks upon they still won't want to make Cruz President.
-A civil war started by the left wing: If Rubio goes too far to the right by appointing both a hard-line Justice to SCOTUS (either Cruz/Luttig) and by refusing to do anything to help the US economy when it flounders in 2017, in late 2019 left-wing agitation reaches the critical mass for a civil war.
-A civil war started by the far-right: If Rubio drifts too far to the left but doesn't make Cruz his VP, instead of the assassination attempt Cruz (who is locked out of the presidential line of succession in this case) will openly incite a right-wing rebellion against him in late 2019.
-The economy starts recovering in 2018/19, if Rubio chose to go down the Bush/Obama path of semi-Keynesian bailouts and stimuli.
The civil war faction event-flags I've used are:
CON_FURY: Representing traditional conservative agitation. Increased by nominating a centrist Justice, intervening in the economy & granting amnesty to illegal immigrants.
LIB_FURY: Representing social liberal & progressive agitation. Increased by nominating right-wing Justices who strike down Roe v. Wade and/or Obergefell v. Hodges, not intervening in the economy and not granting amnesty to illegal immigrants.
LIBR_FURY: Representing libertarian agitation. Increased by renewing or strengthening the Freedom Act in 2019.
ESTB_FURY: Representing Establishment agitation. Increased by not granting amnesty to illegal immigrants and letting the Freedom Act expire in 2019.
ALTR_FURY: Representing alt-right (irreligious far-rightists, ex. Neo-Nazis) agitation. Increased by granting amnesty to illegal immigrants.
I currently have no events for a civil war started by libertarians, the Establishment or the alt-right under Rubio. I think the libertarians & alt-right are too small to try anything on their own (they would rather wait for the larger traditional conservative or liberal factions to start it, then rise up in the ensuing chaos - rising up alone would likely get them destroyed fast) and the Establishment is a fan of Rubio's anyway. Anyway, my idea was that the higher the number of the flags set, the stronger that faction's rebel forces would be (ex. the left-wing rebellion with the LIB_FURY_1, LIB_FURY_2 and LIB_FURY_3 flags set would be stronger than just with LIB_FURY_1 and 2 set).
Rubio can also prevent a civil war (at least one involving broad left/right strokes) without getting assassinated if he carefully balances both wings' preferred policies. He must nominate the CENTER-right Justice who will strike down Roe v. Wade but not Obergefell v. Hodges, which makes the right happy and the left upset but not completely livid; then he must intervene in the failing economy, which appeases the left and angers the right, but not to the point where they're prepared to engage in civil war and/or assassinate him. Lastly he must appease the Establishment at least once, by either passing an amnesty bill or renewing/strengthening the Freedom Act.
I've also started work on the Kasich path, but that's still incomplete: so far I've only written his inauguration and SCOTUS pick events.
Lastly, some screenshots of various Rubio events, all following a VP Nikki Haley path, as well as the Kasich inauguration event. Some of Rubio's events would have different or additional choices if Cruz was VP instead. Unfortunately the event pics are so large that they make reading the text difficult, but I was unable to get smaller event pics to work.
As usual, feel free to modify these events however you wish. I hope the X_FURY event flags in particular will make it easy to edit this stuff into a Civil War chain.
A nice surprise. Much Obliged. Thank You!
Hey, glad to see this mod isn't dead! For my part I've gotten back to work on the promised Rubio and Kasich paths, and actually finished the former. I've attached everything to this post:
Rubio's path includes the following:
-An inauguration event.
-Choosing a SCOTUS Justice to replace Scalia, which will set the trend for Rubio's future picks (all of the remaining incumbent Justices are old enough that they could conceivably retire or die in his term). His choices include: Lorie Skjerven Gildea, the current chief of the Minnesota Supreme Court and a center-right judge; either Ted Cruz, if Cruz wasn't chosen as VP, or Cruz's mentor J. Michael 'Mike' Luttig if he is the VP, both being the hardline right-wing choices; and Sri Srinivasan, a centrist judge that was one of Obama's possible picks for an early Scalia replacement.
-Culture War events dealing with the Supreme Court repealing Roe v. Wade (the abortion decision, struck down with a center or far-right Justice) and Obergefell v. Hodges (the gay marriage decision, only downed by a far-right Justice), or neither (if the centrist Justice is chosen).
-Economic downturn in the middle of 2017. Rubio can either attempt Obama/Bush-style stimuli & bailouts or do nothing in the name of the free market.
-Ramming an 'amnesty' (a path to legalization and citizenship for illegal immigrants) bill through Congress in 2017. Passing it upsets both traditional conservatives and the alt-right, not passing it upsets liberals and the Establishment (fewer immigrant workers to exploit). An option to prevent this will exist if Rubio chose Cruz as his VP.
-Renewing the US Freedom Act in 2019. This is an event for all Presidents: can choose to renew it as-is (the NSA remains powerful but no longer has the authority to collect phone data without a court order), renew it and restore the NSA's phone-data collection authority, or let it expire. However, depending on the President in charge or their chosen VP, some of these options may not be available. In Rubio's case, he can only choose the option to let the Freedom Act expire if he has Cruz as VP, as Cruz is trying to reach out to the Paulite libertarians and/or has a much more sinister purpose in mind (see below).
-Assassination attempts on Rubio by Cruz: if he made Cruz VP but then pissed off the social and economic conservatives by choosing a centrist Justice who won't turn the Culture War around AND trying to intervene in the economy when it crashes in 2017, in late 2019 Cruz will attempt to assassinate him together with some especially radical far-right militia movements. If Rubio renews/strengthens the Freedom Act, the NSA will expose the plot and the FBI kills or arrests the militiamen, forcing Cruz to flee Washington and setting the stage for a civil war where Rubio has the upper hand. On the other hand, if Rubio took a VP Cruz's advice and lets the Freedom Act expire, the NSA will be unable to prevent the plot and Cruz manages to kill Rubio without leaving any particularly damning evidence, which will probably also start a civil war but one where Rubio is obviously too dead to restrain Cruz.
-Rubio assassinated by the Establishment: if Rubio refuses to do their dirty work by opposing both amnesty and the Freedom Act, the Establishment will turn on their 'golden boy' and have him poisoned at a state dinner. This will only happen if his VP is either Nikki Haley or Scott Walker, since even if the Establishment comes to hate the very ground he walks upon they still won't want to make Cruz President.
-A civil war started by the left wing: If Rubio goes too far to the right by appointing both a hard-line Justice to SCOTUS (either Cruz/Luttig) and by refusing to do anything to help the US economy when it flounders in 2017, in late 2019 left-wing agitation reaches the critical mass for a civil war.
-A civil war started by the far-right: If Rubio drifts too far to the left but doesn't make Cruz his VP, instead of the assassination attempt Cruz (who is locked out of the presidential line of succession in this case) will openly incite a right-wing rebellion against him in late 2019.
-The economy starts recovering in 2018/19, if Rubio chose to go down the Bush/Obama path of semi-Keynesian bailouts and stimuli.
The civil war faction event-flags I've used are:
CON_FURY: Representing traditional conservative agitation. Increased by nominating a centrist Justice, intervening in the economy & granting amnesty to illegal immigrants.
LIB_FURY: Representing social liberal & progressive agitation. Increased by nominating right-wing Justices who strike down Roe v. Wade and/or Obergefell v. Hodges, not intervening in the economy and not granting amnesty to illegal immigrants.
LIBR_FURY: Representing libertarian agitation. Increased by renewing or strengthening the Freedom Act in 2019.
ESTB_FURY: Representing Establishment agitation. Increased by not granting amnesty to illegal immigrants and letting the Freedom Act expire in 2019.
ALTR_FURY: Representing alt-right (irreligious far-rightists, ex. Neo-Nazis) agitation. Increased by granting amnesty to illegal immigrants.
I currently have no events for a civil war started by libertarians, the Establishment or the alt-right under Rubio. I think the libertarians & alt-right are too small to try anything on their own (they would rather wait for the larger traditional conservative or liberal factions to start it, then rise up in the ensuing chaos - rising up alone would likely get them destroyed fast) and the Establishment is a fan of Rubio's anyway. Anyway, my idea was that the higher the number of the flags set, the stronger that faction's rebel forces would be (ex. the left-wing rebellion with the LIB_FURY_1, LIB_FURY_2 and LIB_FURY_3 flags set would be stronger than just with LIB_FURY_1 and 2 set).
Rubio can also prevent a civil war (at least one involving broad left/right strokes) without getting assassinated if he carefully balances both wings' preferred policies. He must nominate the CENTER-right Justice who will strike down Roe v. Wade but not Obergefell v. Hodges, which makes the right happy and the left upset but not completely livid; then he must intervene in the failing economy, which appeases the left and angers the right, but not to the point where they're prepared to engage in civil war and/or assassinate him. Lastly he must appease the Establishment at least once, by either passing an amnesty bill or renewing/strengthening the Freedom Act.
I've also started work on the Kasich path, but that's still incomplete: so far I've only written his inauguration and SCOTUS pick events.
Lastly, some screenshots of various Rubio events, all following a VP Nikki Haley path, as well as the Kasich inauguration event. Some of Rubio's events would have different or additional choices if Cruz was VP instead. Unfortunately the event pics are so large that they make reading the text difficult, but I was unable to get smaller event pics to work.
As usual, feel free to modify these events however you wish. I hope the X_FURY event flags in particular will make it easy to edit this stuff into a Civil War chain.
If you are giving me any more events, can you please number them from
7787550
onwards. Cheers
I notice that in your events, the writing is overlapping the images, weird, I'll fix it. Thanks
EDIT:
and please only give me the new stuff, as if you give me old stuff, I have to check that against what I have already. Better just to give me new stuff and mark it new.
Thanks again.
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Oh it is not your fault tommygun248. I have just so many USA events now, that I've had to create a new USA file. I now have 3 usa files... Lookin good!
UPDATE:
Stellaris updates n fixes are for the end of May and end of June. More likely end of June before I play it again.
Hoi4 comes out beginning of June, which is still 3 weeks away.
Total War Warhammer, the graphics are excellent, but I don't really see any change in game play from any total war game, and with the price, will probably give this a miss.
I'm pushing on with this mod. Lots to do yet. I'd like to make a solid version 6.
I'm working my way through all the stuff you guys gave me and stuff I'm originating myself.
Hoi4 looks great, but we still have 3 weeks yet, and following Stellaris, I think I'll wait a week before rushing in and buying it straight off like I did already.
Other than that, if there is still interest in the mod, I'll keep working on it. Cheers
Stellaris updates n fixes are for the end of May and end of June. More likely end of June before I play it again.
Hoi4 comes out beginning of June, which is still 3 weeks away.
Total War Warhammer, the graphics are excellent, but I don't really see any change in game play from any total war game, and with the price, will probably give this a miss.
I'm pushing on with this mod. Lots to do yet. I'd like to make a solid version 6.
I'm working my way through all the stuff you guys gave me and stuff I'm originating myself.
Hoi4 looks great, but we still have 3 weeks yet, and following Stellaris, I think I'll wait a week before rushing in and buying it straight off like I did already.
Other than that, if there is still interest in the mod, I'll keep working on it. Cheers
Yes, we wait the next version of your mod.The new Hoi4 mustn't be the end of MDS and DH.Since Hoi1 too Hoi4 it's the same scenario: playing the WW2 .We are in 2016 and since 1945 there are many conflits in the world to develop for example a cold war game make by Paradox but it's just WW2.We need people like you to modding modern scenarios.
cheers
cheers
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