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Do you mean sins of a solar empire. I think I have it on Steam. Could never get into space games. I have tried many times, but just cannot make that connection at all.

What about Stellaris?
I love space games. i still alpha/beta test for some star wars mods for FOC.
Yes, i'll try out Stellaris when it comes out and i'll waste money on HOI4 like i did for HOI3 :)

SO i installed the new Putin, only played as Russia til oct 16th 2016. ISIS is pretty strong. I liked how serbia and Greece are allied and they took care of Bosnia. I guess they both didn't forget what it was like to have too many Islamic countries around them. Better to just have the MAD ISIS in front og them.

Mod works excellent. NO lag for me at all. But then i never experience lag in a DH mod unless i'm playing FODD, but that's understandable and known and it only lasts for a few game days :)

India needs much more troops unless you want it to get over run by ISIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Love the version 3 so far :) Can't wait to see this Nato and EU thing in action.
 

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Serbia will not join the alliance with Poland, Hungary because Hungary has claims on it. It is more likely that they would join to Romania, Bulgaria etc. Croatia is possible to get away from wEU if things are turning out to be very bad and they could be the one to join Poland, HU.
 

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Also as I said earlier you should really forget about Victor Orban. I'm a Hungarian and I'm telling you he is just a puppet of the EU. He is saying what the people want to hear. In a nationalistic government not a single Fidesz party member would get a place (VO-s party). They are ripe with corruption, and shady business. Most of them are similar to the Ukrainian elite, which are so rich, that it is almost a joke.
I have sent you a nationalistic government with the more likely government. It is not perfect, so any fellow Hungarians could help me out here.
A nationalistic Hungary is positive about Russia, but territorial changes comes first. So if Ukraine willingly gives up Transcarpathia, than Hungary would 100% allied to Ukraine and support its war against Russia. Nationalists in my country are very realistic people. Only the endgame is the important thing. If I remember correctly the Polish nationalist side is against Russia, so it is not likely that they would be happy to ally with them.
If a war would break out between Pol, CZ, Hun, Ukraine against Russia, than Russia would beat them possibly, so therefore I propose a chain effect. A Russia fighting a bloody war west would mean that they are open in the east. The death toll would be quite high, because the nationalistic governments would mobilize very large armies. Japan (or a Pacific alliance) could take the claimed lands. China could cross the border and also take the lands. The nEU (or a Finland) could also move on. Sensing the weakening of the state power a Siberia could be reborn with some Indigenous people in the government like the Yakuts. (They are stirring up trouble and protest even today.) It would be a little bit similar to the Kaiserreich events.
About the Pacific Alliance. The leader should be Japan, and they could get an event about remaining isolated, or a broader world view. Invitation events could pop up for Republic of China, Thailand, South Korea, maybe Malaysia, Singapore etc.
Some civil war events like in Russia could be great for the other big countries if they are suffering defeat after defeat, or if they try to hold on to their waning power.
 

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I'm not sure they would actually send forces. In western EU minds Slovakia is just a "rebel" as Hungary or Poland. The Slovakian political mind is completely the same as the other nationalists. If not for the territorial claims Slovakia would be the perfect ally. It should be a 50-50% of the wEU caring about Slovakia, or not at all.

Well all the EU countries except the western Core, have a percentage chance to join or not to join. This is the same for SLO, yes I think it is 50:50.

I think war between POL, HUN, CZE and eEU of Slovakia will be good idea, and it can be good prelude to Visegrad allience with Russia against Ukraine.
If Visegrad will win the war with eEU in POL should be event about intervention with HUN and Russia in Ukraine

Maybe get the whole of the former Warsaw Pact countries involved somehow, bigger war... Maybe the dream of the EU riches being spread about a bit in Central Europe has gone sour. Now Central Europeans turn in on themselves in bitterness and this anger becomes a stronger nationalism, which leads to "uncharted territory"?

I mean alliance between POL, CZE, HUN and RUS against Ukraine should end after war with Ukraine.
I used wrong word, sorry :D

I think sittuation in east Europe should be like this:
1. POL, CZE, HUN fight with Slovakia, HUN annex it.
2. eEU start intervention, if Warsaw and Budapest will be captured by eEU Slovakia will be puppet country of eEU, if Riga and Bucharest will be captured by POL, HUN or CZE Slovakia will stay in HUN.
3. If POL, CZE and HUN win this war Russia half year later will propose intervention in Ukraine, Poland will take territories that was in Poland before IIww, HUN will take territories in south Ukraine- this that HUN take in 1938 from Czechoslovakia, RUS will take all from right edge from Dniepr.
4. After it allience between Visegrad and RUS will be end.
5. eEU split to nEU (Finland, Lativa, Lithuania, Estonia) and sEU (Romania, Bulgaria, Greece) and this two unions make allience betwen each other.
6. Serbia join to alliance with POL, CZE, HUN and they start war of Bosnia&Herzegowina and Kosovo few months later.
7a. After this war Poland going to take Vilnius from nEU- players should have choice to do it or not, if not it will be end of events for Visegrad
7b. If Poland will start war of Vilnius wEU start intervention after end of war with nEU and sEU. If POL, CZE, HUN or Serbia will take Munich, Berlin and Hamburg it will be end of war- HUN will take territories that losted for Austria after Iww (probably in game it is Eisenstadt, i don't remember) and it will be end of war.
If Visegrad lose war all cauntries of new V4 (POL, HUN, CZE and Serbia) will be puppet countries od wEU.

What do you think?


And I corrected election events for Poland, few ministers are wrong because I must create new but majority is correct (in old version this event all ministers was random) ;)

Good Ideas, I'm copying them to my desktop for reading while doing the events. Got the new elections file. Cheers

Poland, Czech Republic and Hungary are actively supporting Ukraine IRL, weaponry, money, militia.

Well the wEU and the eEu ONLY happen if Brexit happens. So there are in reality two streams of events; one has Brexit leading to wEU, eEU, Central EU (broken in two parts by POL, HUN CZE), nationalism, new nationalist governments, possible wars as written in the past few pages.

On the other hand, Brexit does not happen, the EU remains as independent countries, and a different stream of events can happen. Brexit is 80 : 20 to happen.

I love space games. i still alpha/beta test for some star wars mods for FOC.
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SO i installed the new Putin, only played as Russia til oct 16th 2016. ISIS is pretty strong. I liked how serbia and Greece are allied and they took care of Bosnia. I guess they both didn't forget what it was like to have too many Islamic countries around them. Better to just have the MAD ISIS in front og them.

Mod works excellent. NO lag for me at all. But then i never experience lag in a DH mod unless i'm playing FODD, but that's understandable and known and it only lasts for a few game days :)

India needs much more troops unless you want it to get over run by ISIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Love the version 3 so far :) Can't wait to see this Nato and EU thing in action.

I'm just happy to hear the lag is gone.

Serbia will not join the alliance with Poland, Hungary because Hungary has claims on it. It is more likely that they would join to Romania, Bulgaria etc. Croatia is possible to get away from wEU if things are turning out to be very bad and they could be the one to join Poland, HU.

Well if Serbia gets involved, then Russia will suddenly have a bigger interest and a way into the war?

The Soviet russian state ( I dont know if that has beeen mentiond before) is way to weak, so that its annexed by putins Russia within 2 weeks

I probably need to time it better. It was meant to happen when RUS and UKR are fighting a war. I need to look at these events again.

Also as I said earlier you should really forget about Victor Orban. I'm a Hungarian and I'm telling you he is just a puppet of the EU. He is saying what the people want to hear. In a nationalistic government not a single Fidesz party member would get a place (VO-s party). They are ripe with corruption, and shady business. Most of them are similar to the Ukrainian elite, which are so rich, that it is almost a joke.
I have sent you a nationalistic government with the more likely government. It is not perfect, so any fellow Hungarians could help me out here.
A nationalistic Hungary is positive about Russia, but territorial changes comes first. So if Ukraine willingly gives up Transcarpathia, than Hungary would 100% allied to Ukraine and support its war against Russia. Nationalists in my country are very realistic people. Only the endgame is the important thing. If I remember correctly the Polish nationalist side is against Russia, so it is not likely that they would be happy to ally with them.
If a war would break out between Pol, CZ, Hun, Ukraine against Russia, than Russia would beat them possibly, so therefore I propose a chain effect. A Russia fighting a bloody war west would mean that they are open in the east. The death toll would be quite high, because the nationalistic governments would mobilize very large armies. Japan (or a Pacific alliance) could take the claimed lands. China could cross the border and also take the lands. The nEU (or a Finland) could also move on. Sensing the weakening of the state power a Siberia could be reborn with some Indigenous people in the government like the Yakuts. (They are stirring up trouble and protest even today.) It would be a little bit similar to the Kaiserreich events.
About the Pacific Alliance. The leader should be Japan, and they could get an event about remaining isolated, or a broader world view. Invitation events could pop up for Republic of China, Thailand, South Korea, maybe Malaysia, Singapore etc.
Some civil war events like in Russia could be great for the other big countries if they are suffering defeat after defeat, or if they try to hold on to their waning power.

I just need to copy and save your writing and then read it when I'm doing the events, so I get an idea of the overall direction and maybe a fork or two in the possibilities.

THANKS guys for the ideas. I'm working steadily through the stuff needed and will be doing the Central European wars probably later today. Well starting to do them, as I think this is going to be a huge feature of the next version.

I WILL also upload Version 3 to mediafire now. Cheers
 

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Did you read this what I and novapaddy wrote? In Poland, Czech and Hungary will be nationalist revolt against EU- Polish right-wing politics want better relations with Russia, Victor Orban also make business with Russia actual.

I'm reposting the updated POL ministers file as a text file. Can you please just change it to a .csv file and have a look at the bottom of the file where the new stuff is added.

Can you then please just check it against your latest changes. Sorry for the bother.
 

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I'm reposting the updated POL ministers file as a text file. Can you please just change it to a .csv file and have a look at the bottom of the file where the new stuff is added.

Can you then please just check it against your latest changes. Sorry for the bother.

I will do it for few hours because now Im far from home.
Im not sure did I understand, I have to add new ministers?
Sorry but my english is bad :D
 

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I will do it for few hours because now Im far from home.
Im not sure did I understand, I have to add new ministers?
Sorry but my english is bad :D

I added the new nationalist government to the bottom of the file. This means they have new ID numbers (just for the new additions). If you can just check the numbers against your file and adjust if necessary.

If you do make any changes, please just post the amended file. Cheers
 

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Geez, I see that lots of people on here are still drinking the American koolaid that the Russians are STILL the bad guys.... The
BAD guys are the ISIL persons, period. haha

That's who you should be targeting, but hey if the European countries really want to be just as stupid and fascist as the American Republican party and their trailer park Supporters... GO right ahead and desire to attack Russia lol.

Run a fork like the guys want to have one stated above Nova, but could you please make a decision tree whereby the Smart European states can join Russia to destroy the ISIL peoples.

The damn USA won't do a damn thing except build more of their damn military bases in the middle east so that their corrupt military industrial complex can still drain monies from the stupid American people. :)

The Russian People aren't the actual bad guys here like the American Slanted war mongering press and corporations want you to believe. Give us a way to have some european countries join with Russia to defeat ISIL.

You said your gonna have fascist Trump win here in the USA, so that will set the crazy white power stage for a USA war with mexico and the rest fo the world can get ready for the USA to attack anywhere else they want to steal more land, minerals and any other resources that they want to get.

this will set up the war alliances of USA and stupid white supremacists, rednecked religious nutjobs in USA... whatever Europe wants to do, Russia and their allies... against ISIL. China figuring out what it wants to do. possibly also at war with ISIL because ISIL does manage to grow in africa and jeopardize the chinese mineral grab in Africa.. The Chinese send troops to also get rid of the ISIL. Then China has ISIL problems closer to home when ISIL takes over muslim Countries closer to China.

This is fictitious anyways, correct :)
 

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Geez, I see that lots of people on here are still drinking the American koolaid that the Russians are STILL the bad guys.... The
BAD guys are the ISIL persons, period. haha

That's who you should be targeting, but hey if the European countries really want to be just as stupid and fascist as the American Republican party and their trailer park Supporters... GO right ahead and desire to attack Russia lol.

Run a fork like the guys want to have one stated above Nova, but could you please make a decision tree whereby the Smart European states can join Russia to destroy the ISIL peoples.

The damn USA won't do a damn thing except build more of their damn military bases in the middle east so that their corrupt military industrial complex can still drain monies from the stupid American people. :)

The Russian People aren't the actual bad guys here like the American Slanted war mongering press and corporations want you to believe. Give us a way to have some european countries join with Russia to defeat ISIL.

You said your gonna have fascist Trump win here in the USA, so that will set the crazy white power stage for a USA war with mexico and the rest fo the world can get ready for the USA to attack anywhere else they want to steal more land, minerals and any other resources that they want to get.

this will set up the war alliances of USA and stupid white supremacists, rednecked religious nutjobs in USA... whatever Europe wants to do, Russia and their allies... against ISIL. China figuring out what it wants to do. possibly also at war with ISIL because ISIL does manage to grow in africa and jeopardize the chinese mineral grab in Africa.. The Chinese send troops to also get rid of the ISIL. Then China has ISIL problems closer to home when ISIL takes over muslim Countries closer to China.

This is fictitious anyways, correct :)


Oh I'm sure I'll get something working to suit everyone, eventually?
 
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Little happened with South Korea. I don't think Turkey should be annexed without a war though. South Korea no events or wars happened to me. Quite boring. I noticed and lack of resources.
 
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can you also change the name of the HMS invicible to HMS Albion and HMS Ilustrious to HMS Bulwark and replace them both to plymouth
and the HMS Ark Royal to HMS Ocean. Because the Invicible,Ilustrious and Ark Royal don't exist anymore.

Done.

Little happened with South Korea. I don't think Turkey should be annexed without a war though. South Korea no events or wars happened to me. Quite boring. I noticed and lack of resources.

I must check the triggers and events again. Hmmm . Thanks for doing the play test. Much Obliged. If you are writing about TUR being annexed by ISIS, that is WAD. Cheers.
 

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UPDATE:

I had the western eu single state working really well for the ai player and the human player.
I then did the eastern eu ditto and it started crashing near the end of the whole job.

SO, back to square one, have a cup of tea and think "what the ****!" do I do now?

I started again, re-did the whole wEU from scratch, working much better this time.
I have started the eEU now and it is also working well. I keep testing it any which way I can think of, and it is solid (so far)

But I'm confident that by tomorrow afternoon, I should have all the european single states (that only happen on Brexit) working.

NOW.

Have any of you Central Europeans got any suggestions for the government positions in the Eastern EU?

In the west I have Tusk et all, taken directly from the EU as it is now.
 

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@novapaddy It's not my good day, I do it for hour and when I end I saw that i do it in wrong file (I have installed two version of Putin mod).
I will correct it tomorrow :/
@Khor Ok, I trust you. I will tag you if I will write something about Hungary- then you will can correct me if i will make a mistake.
 

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@novapaddy It's not my good day, I do it for hour and when I end I saw that i do it in wrong file (I have installed two version of Putin mod).
I will correct it tomorrow :/
@Khor Ok, I trust you. I will tag you if I will write something about Hungary- then you will can correct me if i will make a mistake.


If you are using Excel or OpenOffice, then you may just be able to copy and paste in a whole column? May save you time? No worries, I'm just glad you are doing it and not me... :rolleyes:
 
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